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Old 07-03-2007, 09:59 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Re: Raps sign Jason Kapono

They were the most similar team I could think of, probably not the best comparison but I didn't mean for it to be a player-for-player comparison either. I see the similarity in the way the Warriors run the break and spread out the floor. The movement for Juan Dixon last year and Kapono this offseason makes me think that. Athletic but non-shooters like Peterson and Graham seem to be on the outs. Maybe there is a better comparison but I can't think of one off the top of my head.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:19 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Maybe the team isn't building itself after another.
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:34 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Re: Raps sign Jason Kapono

I don't really like this signing, why not go after a more talented 3 if we have (had) the cap room? To me this indicates that BC wants to keep some of the chemistry the team had last year, and not shake things up by adding a small forward that will demand 20 shots a game. Maybe this move is to replace garbajosa (will he be back next year?) since the raptors were really on a role when he was playing well. Maybe Kapono is a slight upgrade?
Just out of curiousity, how does kapono's contract compare to matt bonner's contract?
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:43 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Re: Raps sign Jason Kapono

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I don't really like this signing, why not go after a more talented 3 if we have (had) the cap room? To me this indicates that BC wants to keep some of the chemistry the team had last year, and not shake things up by adding a small forward that will demand 20 shots a game. Maybe this move is to replace garbajosa (will he be back next year?) since the raptors were really on a role when he was playing well. Maybe Kapono is a slight upgrade?
Just out of curiousity, how does kapono's contract compare to matt bonner's contract?
Bonner doesn't have one right now; he was earning $2M a year for two years on his first (rookie) contract.

Kapono is getting $5M because he is the 3P% leader in the NBA and the three point contest champ. Comes at a premium. His percentages are golden (49/51/89).

As for Garbo, there is no guarantee that he will be ready to go at the beginning of the season, let alone be the same player he was.
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They were the most similar team I could think of, probably not the best comparison but I didn't mean for it to be a player-for-player comparison either. I see the similarity in the way the Warriors run the break and spread out the floor. The movement for Juan Dixon last year and Kapono this offseason makes me think that. Athletic but non-shooters like Peterson and Graham seem to be on the outs. Maybe there is a better comparison but I can't think of one off the top of my head.
i'm not thinking player for player either, except with those two guys, who play revolves around for their respective teams, you have to think that way. and mo pete is an athletic non-shooter?

mo76...what more talented 3 could we have gotten? we had no cap room...delfino pretty much finished off what we had, so we had the MLE, which we used on Kapono. i also think people forget that we got more athletic with delfino. sure, we could use an athletic rebounder, but who couldn't?
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Re: Raps sign Jason Kapono

this is the 2nd move bc has made that im not crazy about (1st resigning of mitchell...someone for the love of God get him a good xo coach...i dont know about you, but english, triano, evans doesnt do it for me...)

kapono signing comes down to this for me...is he a guy who can hit the 3pt dagger at key pts in the game? i dont care that he has a 50% fg pt from 3 in the regular, i wanna know if this is a guy who will be able to hit the big shots...some guys have it in them, some dont...dont know enough about kapono too know if hes that type of plyr, but i dont particularily remember him being all that clutch at ucla...

if he can make those shots, its an ok signing since all teams need a guy like this...if not, this is a complete waste of 6 mil.
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Re: Raps sign Jason Kapono

also, for anyone that thinks kapono starts over a healthy garbo, youre flat out wrong.

just think of this lineup thats being proposed: ford def grade = d
parker " " = b
kapono " " = d
bosh " " = d+
bargnani" " = d

thats 4 out of the starting 5 who are consider way below average defensively...this is a recipe for a losing season...

garbo is our best team defender since oakley, and it was no big suprise to me that our d when to hell when he went out...
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Re: Raps sign Jason Kapono

I like this move. For those of you crying about missing out on Nocioni or Pietrus, there is no way their teams would let them go for just MLE. On top of that, even if BC offered them MLE deals, he would have to wait about a week for the other teams to match it... giving other teams optimal time to sign Kapono, Carroll, and whoever else he had on his list. What about Morris Peterson? Well, if you had time to catch last season, I'm pretty sure he gave up on us and we gave up on him.

Okay, maybe player selection isn't the problem but the length of the contract. Look at the contract Carroll just got... a bit cheaper but 2 years longer for another 3-point specialist who isn't as good as Kapono. Yeah, yeah, I know about Luke Walton and you should know that he wanted to sign with the Lakers and was willing to take a less lucrative deal. It's not like NBA players are lining up to play in Canada (harsh reality - this isn't Live 2007).

I'm happy with this signing. Kapono is arguably the best 3-point shooter in the L and it's going to be fun watching him, Parker, and Bargnani on the floor together. Teams are now going to pay if they double Bosh. In terms on defense, is Kapono that much worse than 06-07 Mo Pete? Not really.
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:37 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Re: Raps sign Jason Kapono

I was under the impression Mo was a decent defender at worst. Kapono's a mediocre defender at best.

And nope, this aint NBA live. If it was, Hill would be demanding a 2 year, 8 million deal. Failing that, he'd be on the Blazers (they get everyone, on my copy)

With Carroll, if this is what he's getting paid now (to be a backup, most likely) what would his contract be like if his and Kapono's positions were switched - what if Carroll was working off Wade and Shaq all year?
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what did Carroll get?
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kapono signing comes down to this for me...is he a guy who can hit the 3pt dagger at key pts in the game? i dont care that he has a 50% fg pt from 3 in the regular, i wanna know if this is a guy who will be able to hit the big shots...some guys have it in them, some dont.
he was 2-4 from three in limited playoff action this past playoffs, but apart from that we don't know if he's more Reggie Miller or Peja with his shot.

winning the Allstar game 3pt shooting contest shows he's got the ability to perform when the pressures on and the spotlight is squarely on him, whether that will translate to hitting a big shot at the end of games, I guess we'll see.
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also, for anyone that thinks kapono starts over a healthy garbo, youre flat out wrong....

...garbo is our best team defender since oakley, and it was no big suprise to me that our d when to hell when he went out...
Garbo has a very high BBall IQ, and is a great team defender, but I wouldn't give him that much credit. His shot was at best inconsistent and his 3pt shooting % was not a big theat.

Now as others have written that Kapono, while not being known as a defensive juggernaut had to atleast be respectable to play for Pat Riley. So while we might not see him throw his body around and take charges like Garbo, I don't think the dropoff in defensive ability will be that significant.

but now the offensive improvement on the other hand is defenitely apparent. Garbo's mid range was his stregth for the most part, allowing defenders to hover around the paint effectively congesting the lane. Kapono will stretch the defense, help spread the floor so teams wont be able to just collapse the lane and focus on Chris.
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I was under the impression Mo was a decent defender at worst. Kapono's a mediocre defender at best.
Mo was a decent defender, but last season he was average on our team at best. I feel that Mo's play was really up and down the whole season, and even his previous defensive abilities were overexaggerated... I guess the fact that he took charges well made him look like Bruce Bowen in comparison from the rest of our team. Kapono's athleticism (or lack of) holds him back, but his basketball IQ doesn't make him as bad as some think.

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With Carroll, if this is what he's getting paid now (to be a backup, most likely) what would his contract be like if his and Kapono's positions were switched - what if Carroll was working off Wade and Shaq all year?
And what if Kapono was on the Bobcats? If Carroll can hit 12ppg, there's no doubt Kapono could get that or more. Anyways, in terms of skill these two players are very similar and got similar contracts. Furthermore, the fact that they paid Carroll that much to (most likely) back up J-Rich makes me feel better that we got a potential starter at the same price (Kapono did start most of his games with Miami).

But really, who did you want us to get? Calderon for Josh Smith like the good folks on realgm.com?
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