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Old 07-18-2007, 12:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gerald Green on the block?

Now I've heard Boston wants to shop Gerald Green.. I think we could be good suitors for the kid.

AND DONT SAY HE DOESNT WANT TO PLAY IN CANADA, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF OF THAT(why would he work out for us pre draft then?), thank you...

anyways I know Boston REALLY likes Jose Calderon, and is in need of a point guard.. so I think this trade works really well for both teams and improves us both.

to toronto:
PG Rajon Rondo
SG/SF Gerald Green
C Kendrick Perkins

to boston:
PG Jose Calderon
SG Juan Dixon or PF Kris Humphries
SF Joey Graham or PF Kris Humphries

why boston does it: danny ainge loves jose calderon, they need a point guard to produce right now, while rondo is still very raw but a good talent. they have no use for green, so he is only a filler.

why toronto does it: this move would improve our defense dramatically imo. we get rondo who is a very good defender at the 1, with potential to be a gary payton type player (personally i'd take this guy over jose or tj in the future), he could also play at the 2 for us because of his length and quickness. kendrick perkins also gives us the low post defender and toughness down low we soreley need, especially with bargs starting at centre. gerald green is the hit or miss but he would be nice to develop on the wings, even if he doesnt work out i think we win this trade.

pg - TJ Ford - R.Rondo
sg - A.Parker - C.Delfino - G.Green
sf - J.Kapono - J.Garbajosa
pf - C.Bosh - K.Perkins
c - A.Bargnani - R.Nesterovic

honestly.. who is going to score on us with that second line? thats a scary defensive lineup.. i could see maybe jorge and kapono switching up to provide some balance of scoring and defense.

the funny thing is it ends up being that green is the least important piece in this trade. but i still think both teams do it.
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Gerald Green on the block?

If Green is the least important piece, why would the Raptors essentially deal Calderon for Rondo? Calderon is twice the player Rondo is, at least. Green's got promise but he's not worth Calderon at all.

And Kendrick Perkins is just terrible. I laugh at his efforts to play basketball.
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Gerald Green on the block?

I'm with narrator on this.
Plus the reason Green's on the block is because he's awful.
He has negative defence, streaky shooting and (I think) quite low basketball IQ.

Rondo, yes he's an excellent defender..
But I'd rather have a top3 (at worst) backup pg over potential.
Maybe next year..

As for Perkins, yeah he blocks some, but he can't play the 4 (plus he is one of two players Boston has taller than 6'9)
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Re: Gerald Green on the block?

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Now I've heard Boston wants to shop Gerald Green.. I think we could be good suitors for the kid.

AND DONT SAY HE DOESNT WANT TO PLAY IN CANADA, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF OF THAT(why would he work out for us pre draft then?), thank you...
umm...what about his family's unbridled celebration both times the raptors didn't select him. people aren't usually happy when they don't get selected.

gerald green is a punk and i want nothing to do with him...particularly if it involves giving up jose.

NO THANK YOU
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Gerald Green on the block?

^ Prove it. Your just listening to what someone said.. you realize they are just making that up to soothe their own pissed off feelings because we didnt select him. Get Real.

IT'S CALLED CLAPPING FOR THE PLAYER WHO GOT SELECTED.. LOL..DUHHHHHH .. wow. Some people.

And yeah, I could see why you guys wouldn't want to do it. We do give up the best player in the deal, but I just feel Rondo would be a better compliment to TJ than Jose, given the fact of his GREAT defensive ability. I see stardom in Rondo for sure.

I also think you guys underrate Perkins.. he's a real bruiser. He'd help us a lot.

It's a tough trade for us to pull off, but hey, you gotta give something up to get something, right?
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Re: Gerald Green on the block?

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Now I've heard Boston wants to shop Gerald Green.. I think we could be good suitors for the kid.

AND DONT SAY HE DOESNT WANT TO PLAY IN CANADA, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF OF THAT(why would he work out for us pre draft then?), thank you...

anyways I know Boston REALLY likes Jose Calderon, and is in need of a point guard.. so I think this trade works really well for both teams and improves us both.

to toronto:
PG Rajon Rondo
SG/SF Gerald Green
C Kendrick Perkins

to boston:
PG Jose Calderon
SG Juan Dixon or PF Kris Humphries
SF Joey Graham or PF Kris Humphries

why boston does it: danny ainge loves jose calderon, they need a point guard to produce right now, while rondo is still very raw but a good talent. they have no use for green, so he is only a filler.

why toronto does it: this move would improve our defense dramatically imo. we get rondo who is a very good defender at the 1, with potential to be a gary payton type player (personally i'd take this guy over jose or tj in the future), he could also play at the 2 for us because of his length and quickness. kendrick perkins also gives us the low post defender and toughness down low we soreley need, especially with bargs starting at centre. gerald green is the hit or miss but he would be nice to develop on the wings, even if he doesnt work out i think we win this trade.

pg - TJ Ford - R.Rondo
sg - A.Parker - C.Delfino - G.Green
sf - J.Kapono - J.Garbajosa
pf - C.Bosh - K.Perkins
c - A.Bargnani - R.Nesterovic

honestly.. who is going to score on us with that second line? thats a scary defensive lineup.. i could see maybe jorge and kapono switching up to provide some balance of scoring and defense.

the funny thing is it ends up being that green is the least important piece in this trade. but i still think both teams do it.
So you get Green, to put him 3rd on the depth chart for SG? He probably has a better chance at SF.
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Re: Gerald Green on the block?

Perk is the Celt's primary center. They can't afford to give him up.

I wouldn't count on the Celtics giving up on Green quite so soon. Playing off of Pierce and Ray Allen, he's going to be a wildcard bench player.
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Re: Gerald Green on the block?

Which is his natural position, imo.
But he isn't an athletic wing defender. He's just an athletic wing..
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Re: Gerald Green on the block?

I don't think the Celtics would trade Rondo for Calderon straight up, let alone throwing in Green and/or Perkins. They love RR.
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Re: Gerald Green on the block?

^ Yep, who wouldnt.. But I know Ainge is infatuated with Calderon.

Not only that, but with Pierce and Allen.. there looking for a what can you do for me NOW point guard, and thats Jose.. not so much for Rondo who is still very raw.
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Re: Gerald Green on the block?

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AND DONT SAY HE DOESNT WANT TO PLAY IN CANADA, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF OF THAT(why would he work out for us pre draft then?), thank you...
Well, if you recall, at first Green did refuse to work out for us. At some point shortly before the draft either he or his agent changed their mind and a last-minute session was booked. I think it was a showcase, too, not a competitive workout, but I can't recall exactly.

And there were reports of his family cheering both times the Raptors passed him in the draft. I don't really understand your explanation of his family cheering loudly for someone else getting picked... you really ONLY see that when it is teammates or friends... especially not when said player is dropping in the draft (at one point he was projected top-five). Supposedly he would've played in Toronto, he (and his family) just didn't want that to be the outcome.
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Re: Gerald Green on the block?

I like both Rando and Green but they're both years away and far from a sure things. I don't mind dealing Jose but this deal doesn't do it for me
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Rondo and Green?! throw in Perkins at the side?! for Calderon and garbage?!

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Re: Gerald Green on the block?

I would do it on the grounds that I like Perkins but I don't think Boston would do it, I liked Green but he has horrible atittude, remember everytime he played against us his rookie season? I am not so sure why people are sold on Rondo.

at the end of the day... no.
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