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Old 07-30-2007, 11:08 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Garnett deal almost done?

Apparently it's all but done (according to SI.com's front page). They're just working on the cap filler. Garnett's extension is something like 5 years/$125 million (not sure how that works: it seems higher than is allowed... maybe it's an extension to KG's gargantuan contract so different rules apply).

This thread is right: it kills the depth. Apparently the C's and their fans don't care, though. I suppose neither would I if I was in their position (like all of us were 2 years ago).

I'll hold off judgment until the trade's official.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Garnett deal almost done?

Depth isn't that big of an issue when you have Pierce and Garnett who can both play 40 minutes, and make each other better in the process, supposing they stay healthy.

I don't see them including Rondo in the deal, they would be left without a point guard (literally).

I hope it isn't true, it would be scary to see the Raps back in the "also ran" race for the next two or three seasons.

(That being said, the increase in competition in the AD could make our team better in the long run)
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Garnett deal almost done?

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Apparently it's all but done (according to SI.com's front page). They're just working on the cap filler. Garnett's extension is something like 5 years/$125 million (not sure how that works: it seems higher than is allowed... maybe it's an extension to KG's gargantuan contract so different rules apply).
Yeah, I'm betting that the League offices are working frantically to make this deal happen. Could be a nice change of discussion from the officiating scandal.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:40 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Garnett deal almost done?

Tsn is saying the deal is done so fellow rap fans are you hitting the panic button like I am right now?
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:55 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Tsn is saying the deal is done so fellow rap fans are you hitting the panic button like I am right now?

Nope, not me. The Celts will be a very much improved team, but I feel our team make-up can compete and beat the Celtics with KG, PP, and Jesus. We will be coming into the second season with our core group, and that will pay off in the win total.
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Re: Garnett deal almost done?

I agree with Bill. Our depth is much superior to that of the C's and we are still the best shooting team in the league so if we get hot no one can stop us.
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Re: Garnett deal almost done?

Hell I welcome this deal. Bring it on.

So they are all over 30. They are all going to play 40+ mins due to depth issues and they are going to each play 75+ games, leading them to the ECF?

OK. Anyone spot the flaw? Who's the guy that will make the open shot? What happens if KG goes down? Who is going to rebound?

If we play them, we can run their geriatric asses into the ground.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Garnett deal almost done?

I mean, its not good for us, or the Eastern Conference for that matter.

Now, we probably aren't winning the Atlantic.. But I don't really care, as long as we make it to the East Finals, or Semis.. I'm happy.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:36 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Garnett deal almost done?

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Hell I welcome this deal. Bring it on.

So they are all over 30. They are all going to play 40+ mins due to depth issues and they are going to each play 75+ games, leading them to the ECF?

OK. Anyone spot the flaw? Who's the guy that will make the open shot? What happens if KG goes down? Who is going to rebound?

If we play them, we can run their geriatric asses into the ground.
Who cares if they have to play 40+ minutes? They all average around that for their careers. And you can easily spell any of the 3 for extended periods of time as any of those two on the floor at the same time is fine. Who cares if they're over 30? Garnett hasn't played less then 76 games in a season; Ray Allen averages 70-75 games a year (including last year, where Seattle benched his *** to get Durant) and Pierce has never played less then 75 games a season barring last years tank-fest. They are all elite top 20-25 (KG being top 5-7) who are still on top of there game. They have a 2-3 year (maybe four) window where they will maintain their level of play and as a result, Boston will be the prohibitive favorite in the East. Depth is overrated, especially in the playoffs, where teams usually only go 7 deep (8 at best).

Only a raging homer or hater (which you seem to be) would belittle this trade. As much as I love the rapz, they have easily been surpassed by the Celtics with this move. Maybe it'll be a good thing. Instead of a weak-*** Atlantic, our younglings will have 2-3 years intense competition. Bosh playing against KG 6-8 times a year can only help in his development.
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Who cares if they have to play 40+ minutes? They all average around that for their careers. And you can easily spell any of the 3 for extended periods of time as any of those two on the floor at the same time is fine. Who cares if they're over 30? Garnett hasn't played less then 76 games in a season; Ray Allen averages 70-75 games a year (including last year, where Seattle benched his *** to get Durant) and Pierce has never played less then 75 games a season barring last years tank-fest. They are all elite top 20-25 (KG being top 5-7) who are still on top of there game. They have a 2-3 year (maybe four) window where they will maintain their level of play and as a result, Boston will be the prohibitive favorite in the East. Depth is overrated, especially in the playoffs, where teams usually only go 7 deep (8 at best).

Only a raging homer or hater (which you seem to be) would belittle this trade. As much as I love the rapz, they have easily been surpassed by the Celtics with this move. Maybe it'll be a good thing. Instead of a weak-*** Atlantic, our younglings will have 2-3 years intense competition. Bosh playing against KG 6-8 times a year can only help in his development.
Hey newbie. Since the Celts will be going 7 deep, lets have their rotation.
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Re: Garnett deal almost done?

I'm not panicking, but this is a big deal. It will give us a lot of competition in the AD, and in the East in general.

We've all seen what KG can do when he is unhappy, imagine what he can do if he likes it in Boston. Thankfully they have a poor coach.

The fact that we have a young core is nice, but I don't want to get thumped for a couple of years. That isn't a good learning process considering how much we have lost in the last few years as it is.
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Re: Garnett deal almost done?

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Hey newbie. Since the Celts will be going 7 deep, lets have their rotation.
Good one. Always enjoy the ad hominem argument. Yea, I"m not a basketball superstar like you. 4000 post eh? You must get all them hot hunnies telling them you spend a large portion of your time on a basketballboard. ...I kid I kid. :P

Obviously you can't have a rational conversation without resorting to name calling, but I'll indulge you anyways.

Not entirely sure about the Celts rotation. Think it would go something like this:

PG Rondo _____ Pruit
SG Pierce/Allen T.Allen
SF Allen/Pierce Gomes
PF KG Baby Davis
C Perkins _____

Not world class depth for sure...even sub-par. They need a legit back-up/starting PG and depth C. But they have a mid-level and veterans exception which they can easily use on Brevin Knight/Charlie Bell. Maybe pick-up a big body like Olowokandi (sp?), Mutombo, Webber, PJ Brown. Very easy pieces to pick-up, and with a core of KG/Ray Ray/PP, Boston becomes much more attractive.
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Who's the guy that will make the open shot?
Ray Allen, career 51% eFG%.

Paul Pierce, career 48% eFG%.

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What happens if KG goes down? Who is going to rebound?
Ryan Gomes, Paul Pierce, Rajon Rondo, Perkins, should I go on?
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I like what Boston is doing.

They tried the youth movement but they scrapped that and now they have perhaps the best nucleus in the Atlantic.
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