speedythief

Jefferson, Green, Telfair, Ratliff, and a future first, is that the official deal?

butr

That's right I define myself by my postings on BBB. You being a newbie has nothing to do with your number of posts. And if you think being a "newbie" is name-calling, you must have paper-thin skin. It also did not register that homer/hater labels are also evidence of "name-calling"?

Being new, means you were not around for evidence that shows the opposite of your assessment of me.

Ray 16m
PP 16m
KG 22m
Perk 4.5m
Scal 3m
Rondo 1.3m
Tony 1.9m
Rest 2m

Total up to about 66 million. Are they going to drop a lower level exception for 1.8 and another 5 plus per year on top of that for depth? KG is going to get an additional 3 mil per on an extension. The Boston ownership better be prepared to lose a boatload of cash to pay the tax because they don't have it right now.

Listen. I'm not as irrational as you think I am. Are they better? Of course. Are they title contenders? Not a chance. If one injury can wipe out your team's chances you are not a contender. One of these three go down, and that 40+ minutes goes to a mix of D-leaguers.

Look at Shaq, breaking down after a HOF career. Now he got them a championship, that was a great deal. KG is not Shaq. They now have 3 players locked in for 3 to 6 years given the upcoming extension all over 30. If I'm a Boston fan, do I want to be paying 60 to 65 million dollars to these guys in 3 years when they will be slower and broken down from playing so much in their 30s. MJ never played so many minutes even in the later years.

Honestly, I don't know what is out there now at PG, but they need to take that MLE break it up, and find some solid value UFAs, maybe from Europe, pay the tax through the nose, and take advantage of these 3 NOW. As they currently sit, the Celts are extremely vulnerable. Look at the Raps. They can lose a player and still compete by plugging in a player, see the Bosh injury, (6-6). Look at the Suns after they lost Amare for a YEAR. Take one of these 3 away from the current roster and they are a mediocre team or worse.

This is not NBA 08. Depth matters beyond the first 3. When 4 through 8 are still ****, that will become exposed.

bigbabyjesus

There depth isn't THAT bad.

Yes they need a backup point guard.

But Tony Allen is a good player, gritty defensively, that will give you a solid 20+ minutes.

Ryan Gomes is one of the leagues most underrated players, he can rebound, hustle, score do everything.. He's good for 30 + minutes off the bench.

At the centre position there alittle weak. I like Perkins, but there going to have to rely on him to play 40 a night it looks like. Unless they decide to play KG at centre a lot of the time, and play Gomes next to him.

Overall not that deep.. but with a three headed monster like that what do you expect? There scary if there healthy.

If you think we're better your kidding yourself.

butr

The latest from ESPN has Gomes also going in that package. Oh and after the trade, KG's trade kicker brings him up to 28.75 MILLION.

icehawk

ROFL Please stop dreaming. The only way we possibly get a W against the Cs is if one of the big 3 is injured. So what if they're older players? If you didn't catch last season, they're still elite players and that's all that matters.

ESPN: The latest configuration of a deal that would reportedly send Garnett to the Celtics would send Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, Theo Ratliff, and two first-round picks to the Timberwolves, the Boston Globe reports. (Jul 30)

So if that goes through they'll still have Al Jefferson, Rajon Rondo, Tony Allen, Kendrick Perkins, and Leon Powe. Aside from a PG, I don't see what's stopping them from winning the East.

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R-X

Irregardless of whatever the terms of the deal are..the Raps couldn't handle NJ's big 3....and now there is Boston's Super 3 that are even scarier...

We might win more games in the regular season but i do not want this team going up against the Celtics and Nets in the playoffs...who cares about your bench then..its the stars that win in the playoffs...god forbid if the Knicks actually gel this year...talent-wise they are better then the Raptors at every position (they just suck as a team)

Overall this sucks as a Raps fan...but is great for b-ball fans in general...

the Atlantic division will be the one to watch next season for sure!

butr

Ah literacy...

"Multiple sources said the team includes two assets Timberwolves general manager Kevin McHale has coveted: Al Jefferson and Theo Ratliff's expiring contract.

It's believed that the tentative agreement also calls for the Celtics to also ship youngsters Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair and Ryan Gomes to Minnesota, along with a future first-round draft pick and the return of a first-rounder that the Wolves surrendered in the Wally Szczerbiak-Ricky Davis trade in January 2006."

Wanna rethink that.

butr

Honestly. I don't get the fear. Every player on this team will be a year better. We're deeper.

Instead of playing boring games against BOS and NY we actually have a chance to develop real rivalries not based on hatred of a player.

I am ****ing pumped, because even though I have taken the minority stance here, it will be a bigger deal when we beat BOS. Boston will be better. There are 4 games on the sked that meant nothing last year. In the end you want to be the best. I don't want to just get to the ECF and have people say oh well it was Bosh and 4 stiffs.

And I want everybody who is underrating our team AGAIN this year to remember what you pegged us for last year. Chances are you had us around 30-35 wins. Then think how wrong you were.

Junkyard Dog13

no need to hit the Panic button sure The Celtics & Knicks have greatly improved team talent but it doesnt mean we are doomed we have a good starting 5 and the deepest bench in the Div, we are just gonna need more improvement from last years group within and hope Kapono is consistent.
Bargnani at C will create match up problems and we only saw him do damage asa back up as a starter he should be better as he will likely be plying 35 MPG on a consistent basis.
TJ Ford should improve as well, he knows the offense fully with a year under his belt in running it and he will get a good push from Jose for his job.
depth is pretty good at every position.
We still don't know who the starting Sf will be a 3 man fight Kapono, Garbajosa & Graham.

Boston's bench awfully thin and that trio over 30 and if they have to play 40 min s consistent basis they will breakdown and get banged up.

Even if we don't win the Div we likely still will be in the top 5

1. Chicago
2 Cleveland
3 Boston/Toronto/New Jersey
4. Miami
5. 2nd place of #3 heading

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butr

I can forgive so many grammatical errors. This is a forum after all. But not... irregardless.

icehawk

I copied & pasted that off ESPN's most recent update (at the time) and it didn't include Jefferson.

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lucc19

as long as, no one get hurts... boston has one of the best teams in the nba... if everyone can play with each other.... they gave up AL... who i really liked, but KG can do everything by himself... and not giving up rondo.. was key in this deal, i never really liked green, and theo is at the end of his road... great move for boston... ray allen now KG... wow i didn't think they could change that much, but i have to take off my hat to them, great move!

icehawk

Yeah buddy, everyone has it wrong but you. Rethink that.

Nobody's saying the Raps aren't going to improve. It's just that Boston is huge right now (if the deal goes through). I love the Raptors but I'm not so biased to ignore the threat of Boston acquiring both Allen and Garnett. If you can't see through your Raptor homer glasses then you're beyond help.

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chocolove

was watching the ticker today and that seems to be the official deal. For real, the celts got away with robbery on this one, I think green and telfair are ****, Jefferson is the only good piece in the deal. I dont know what year the pick is in but i mean with the big 3 it cant be a high pick

EDIT: Gomes is in the deal too i think

butr