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Old 01-10-2008, 03:09 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Best Andrea Comparison

Since when is Sheed being held back from anything? He's one of the best veterans in the league, holding fort for one of the best teams in the league.
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:17 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Best Andrea Comparison

Rasheed Wallace is one of the best defenders in the league. Arguably the best low post defender in the league. I don't see the comparison.
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Re: Best Andrea Comparison

andrea is not a bad defensive player, especially low post d on big guys.. where his length & quickness really help him.. it doesnt hurt his legs are trees (ex. yao ming)

he can develope into something good, he just is not at that point right now.. he does not finish his defensive plays off.. the whole toronto team will play good defence until the shot goes up but once it is up... we don't crash the boards, which is where the main problem lies.
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Since when is Sheed being held back from anything? He's one of the best veterans in the league, holding fort for one of the best teams in the league.
I said, his unwillingness to go down low is holding him back. This does not mean that someone or something else is holding him back. This means that, unlike earlier in his career, he doesn't want to play in the post anymore (offensively speaking). If he did, he'd be a top 5 player.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:37 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Rasheed Wallace is one of the best defenders in the league. Arguably the best low post defender in the league. I don't see the comparison.
I realize this, and stated it several times myself. I think he's the best post defender in the league.

In no way am I saying Andrea is as good.. But I do think he has the potential to be.

Whats Andrea's best asset other than his shot? His post defense.

And yeah narrator I said it in my previous post but I shouldn't have said basketball IQ, rather his unwillingness to bang in the post.. he loves the 3 point shot FAR too much. I agree he would be a top 5-10 player if he mixed up his game more and rebounded to his ability.
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I said, his unwillingness to go down low is holding him back. This does not mean that someone or something else is holding him back. This means that, unlike earlier in his career, he doesn't want to play in the post anymore (offensively speaking). If he did, he'd be a top 5 player.
but he's obviously playing the way his hall-of-fame coach wants, most of the time anyway, and doing it well for an elite team.
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:23 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Best Andrea Comparison

Lamarcus Aldridge is a much better comparison to Sheed than Bargnani is IMO.


I think Bargnani reminds me more of a less rebounding Brad Miller. As time goes on I think he will rebound more though.....Just like Aldridge will too.
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:41 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Best Andrea Comparison

i'm not a comparison guy, but there are things about andrea right now that i felt about pervis ellison back in the day. not many, but a few. both #1's, both injury-prone, both underachievers in the early seasons while their teams waited for them (after entering the league seemingly polished).

i just hope andrea's career doesn't follow the same path. pervis broke out one season, i think he was named most improved or something, but injuries always hobbled him and he never became a legitimate star. and he wasn't necessarily seen as a 'bust' either. just- not good enough in some facets of his head. intangibles that made him effective but not extraordinary.

when sacramento picked him back in the day, it sort of mirrored our position with andrea last year. they weren't looking to him to rescue the team, as most #1's are asked to do. they didn't even know what they wanted from him- they just thought he was the best player to pick in that draft and they were wrong- though not by much, as in andrea's case, where the draft was relatively weak at the top (not including the blazers).

i'm not closing the door on bargnani at all. but if, when it's all said and done, his career still reminds me of pervis ellison's, that'll be a shame.

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Rasheed has a great post-game on offence and is one of the better post defenders in the league.
LOL @ Rasheed being a good defender. One of the "better in the league" LOL nice
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Re: Best Andrea Comparison

just reading some replies gives me the feeling that Andrea is being underrated in terms of his one-on-one D. His help D is quite atrocious to look at but his man-on-man is adequate for someone of his experience.

And there are facets of Andrea's game that I can see with Rasheed's game, so I can understand how someone can make the comparison (and maybe even a ceiling), but like other have said there are other things both players do that sets them miles apart as well.

Not a bad comparison though, I mean if Andrea can become a 'Rasheed minus the techs', then I'm glad the Raps drafted him.
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sheed plays defense,rebounds and is tough. nani is soft, past chris bosh. no comparison there.
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your team plays no defense. what do you know
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Um.......his team is Portland I believe which is 7th in the league in points allowed. That's one spot behind the Raptors.
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