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Old 01-11-2008, 03:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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^Well the Raptors are pretty awful on defense so that doesnt bode well haha..

But Jizzy, please tell me why you think Chris Bosh is soft, besides your obvious hate for him and the Raptors team.

Andrea, I can understand why you would say he is soft.. Even the Raptors, I can see why you'd say there soft.. but Chris Bosh? far from soft..

He is the toughest man on the earth compared to Vince Carter and Krstic.
Bosh needs to drive more. He's quicker than other centres and PFs.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:15 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Best Andrea Comparison

He's top 5 I believe in getting to the line.

I agree he needs to drive more SOMETIMES, but recently.. he's been mixing up his game perfectly. It really depends on how the defender is playing him. If they sag off, he's going to be tempted to take his jumper like any player.

Why that means he's soft, I don't get..

When has Bosh ever backed down to anyone? He's not afraid of getting hit.

When a soft player gets hit and falls to the ground, does he IMMEDIATELY pop up and shake it off like Bosh does every time? No.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:41 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: Best Andrea Comparison

jizzy just likes saying soft & bosh in the same sentance.. it's weird.

since bosh came into the league, @ the size he was.. extremely slight of body, he brought it right at KG his rookie season & schooled him on 1 play,.. from that second i knew the kid wasn't soft or in a deep need of toughness.

bosh can get to the line at will, the times he lacks getting a FT, are the times he isnt demanding & assertive, but when he gets in the zone, he will be at the stripe.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:32 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: Best Andrea Comparison

you know who andrea reminds me of? he reminds me of a quicker but softer version of charlie villanueva. i was just watching the bucks and i thought villanueva was totally being underutilized behind yi... it would be great if charlie v comes back. how many bigman has his touch from outside and still be able to play below the basket and be willing to rebound the ball?
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:46 AM   #35 (permalink)
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i like charlie, but how many jumpshooting big men can we possibly have?

theres no room for him here.
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:04 AM   #36 (permalink)
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that's actually a great comparison...sadly i think CV3 > AB...at least CV3 has heart
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:11 AM   #37 (permalink)
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CV may have more heart, but Andrea has more hair.
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:11 AM   #38 (permalink)
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haha, hair over heart anyday boys, anyday
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:30 AM   #39 (permalink)
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heh i was at the raps vs knicks gam tonight at msg and i can say 100% AB = bust.....he's not a bad player....just a spot up shooter that happens to be 7 ft tall...not worth #1 pick at all
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btw, I just realize that everytime Jizzy calls Bosh soft, Bosh always have a big game afterwards. You should frequent our board Jizzy.
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Old 01-12-2008, 02:28 AM   #41 (permalink)
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AB has a bigger ceiling than CV

and this is coming from a CV fan.
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Andrea has twice the defensive potential that Charlie has at the center position. they both have a very good skill to size ratio but Il Mago wins out. CV has a better feel for the game at this point but Andrea's the better center prospect.
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I second that.

Andrea will be fine. If you remember he did not have a very good summer playing for Italy as well. I think this is just a hangover of that....a very long hangover. We make lots out of how poor Bargs rebounds, but how good Moon is. I was watching the last game (Philly) and noticed that on free throws, Bargs boxes out his man and Moon comes from the high block to get the easy board. That happened at least twice in the game, if Andrea is the designated rebounder on that play he grabs 4 or 5 total for the game.....all of a sudden we would be giving him some slack. Alas it is not set up that way, no one gives Andrea the right of way (rightfully so right now) for easy boards. Until he starts to get some 50/50 balls he wont get any respect from his own team as well.
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I second that.
I was watching the last game (Philly) and noticed that on free throws, Bargs boxes out his man and Moon comes from the high block to get the easy board. That happened at least twice in the game, if Andrea is the designated rebounder on that play he grabs 4 or 5 total for the game.....all of a sudden we would be giving him some slack. Alas it is not set up that way, no one gives Andrea the right of way (rightfully so right now) for easy boards. Until he starts to get some 50/50 balls he wont get any respect from his own team as well.
Finally somebody see it.

He is always boxing out big men and let the designated player to get the rebound (Chris or Jamario).

However when I saw some aggressiveness on the boards I saw bad movements too (resulting in a foul) above all on the offensive fase.

This because Andrea isn't a good rebounder (still) but not a ugly one you think. I believe he should normally get 6-7 himself by now. But he plays for the team and not for the "numbers"(in a interview to an italian newspaper he said that he ignores the stats in the wins, but not in the losses).

Do you remember the last year without Bosh? he reached the 11-12 rebounds in a pair of games.

And another thing: I still have in front of my eyes the last possession the the last playoff game against NJ: I thought "now Sam wants to leave the last shot for Chris, be sure"... he did (but NJ knew it too since there were 5 player on him) also if Andrea was wide on the three line for the winning shot. Sorry but I have not faith in Sam.
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