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southeasy · 01-12-2008, 11:14 AM

charlie v is sick.. i'd love to have him back, and he'd probably rather be here then bucks any day.

i was really mad that fateful draft day after the ford trade & drafting bargnani... damn... but i'm over it, and i don't agree with that New Yorker that said bargnani is 100% bust.. dude has shown flashes, once he puts it all together (he will) you might be eating those words.. btw lastnight, i saw another play that told me AB & CB can play together w/ a really nice low post feed by Andrea off a curl for a dunk.

now however, i can see where you coming from, dude plays like a 7 foot Adam Morrison... anybody remember that comparison?

for a second i remember people talking about the possibility of a big lineup like CV, Bosh & Bargnani(aldridge)... three 6'10+ towers.

billfindlay10 · 01-12-2008, 11:16 AM

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there's always room for quality players. the thing i like about charlie is that while he's got the outside shot, he has a nice inside game too. i actually think charlie V, even during his rookie season, was a lot more polished as a player than bargnani at this point. We may have a couple of good jump shooting big men, but they're no where near as good as charlie V. And i think charlie V is a better center prospect than people think. He's got great size and he's bigger than bargnani, and we all know he has great chemistry with bosh. i have yet to see barganani and bosh strive together on the floor, but charlie V could always play, whether it's at the 5 or 3 he made it work with bosh.

Last time I checked 6'11" 235 (Charlie) is smaller then 7'0" 250 (Andrea)

Charlie is not a 5, he could be a very good 4, but he is stuck behind Yi. Bargs has more potential to be a very good center for the Raps...he is just in a big slump. I am confidant he will come out of it in time.....He is only 22 years old.

Dee-Zy · 01-12-2008, 12:39 PM

CV is not a Center and will never be, he is a better 3 than 5. CV is a finesse 4 and so is Bosh, that's the problem however I think we can sure use him again on this team. We can have him off the bench to back Bosh and AB

We could even go big with AB,CB,CV

**bigbabyjesus** · 01-12-2008, 03:08 PM

yeah..

Charlie is NOT a 5, and is WAY too slow for the 3.

Not only is Bargnani bigger and stronger (Andreas lower body strength is really underrated, thats what keeps his defense solid and steady when guarding centres, he just needs to add upper body strength).. but he is quicker..

Charlie Villanueva is a PF, nothing else.. Bargs has a better chance to play the 3 then he does, and a MUCH better chance to play centre

Put Charlie at the SF, see how badly he gets torched on defense. Same goes for Bargnani even though hes quicker, but I never saw him as a SF anyways.

southeasy · 01-12-2008, 03:28 PM

i just remembered, i always thought andray blatche of washington & andrea had similar games.. and both can hit the 3 @ 7 feet tall.

**Cinco de Mayo** · 01-12-2008, 04:02 PM

A crappier-rebounding, more-skilled, mobile and athletic version of Troy Murphy.

c_dog · 01-13-2008, 04:02 AM

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Last time I checked 6'11" 235 (Charlie) is smaller then 7'0" 250 (Andrea)

Charlie is not a 5, he could be a very good 4, but he is stuck behind Yi. Bargs has more potential to be a very good center for the Raps...he is just in a big slump. I am confidant he will come out of it in time.....He is only 22 years old.

could have fooled me. i know charlie V is shorter but i wasn't aware that andrea has 15 lb's on him. charlie certainly looks bigger if you look at his arms and upper body compared to barganani. at any rate, he certainly plays bigger.

i wouldn't mind getting him back especially now that he has low market value(and there's the rumor the bucks are looking to blow up their team).

SkywalkerAC · 01-13-2008, 04:39 AM

watch the next bucks-raps game. andrea is WAY bigger than CV.

c_dog · 01-13-2008, 12:51 PM

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watch the next bucks-raps game. andrea is WAY bigger than CV.

way bigger? he has one inch on charlie, i wouldn't say he's WAY bigger. i always got the impression andrea was quite skinny and i'm suprised to see he's listed as 250. he looks as skinny as t-mac. charlie v isn't ripped or anything but i always thought he looked like he had pretty good size and strength for an nba big. i've been trying to find a pic of the two together but no luck.

and charlie V is listed as 240lbs on yahoo, but still, surprised he's 10lbs lighter.

SkywalkerAC · 01-13-2008, 01:15 PM

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way bigger? he has one inch on charlie, i wouldn't say he's WAY bigger. i always got the impression andrea was quite skinny and i'm suprised to see he's listed as 250. he looks as skinny as t-mac. charlie v isn't ripped or anything but i always thought he looked like he had pretty good size and strength for an nba big. i've been trying to find a pic of the two together but no luck.

and charlie V is listed as 240lbs on yahoo, but still, surprised he's 10lbs lighter.

Charlie was measured to be 6'9 in bare feet. andrea is 7 foot in socks. and bargnani has at least 15 lbs on charlie.

SkywalkerAC · 01-13-2008, 01:16 PM

and whoever said troy murphy came up with the closest comparison in the league right now.

c_dog · 01-13-2008, 01:31 PM

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Charlie was measured to be 6'9 in bare feet. andrea is 7 foot in socks. and bargnani has at least 15 lbs on charlie.

i'm just saying, charlie looks like a legit 6'11 player to me and again, andrea doesn't look to have 15lbs on him at all. andrea doesn't look big to me, he's just tall. maybe i need to get hdtv or something because they look about the same to me on tv.

southeasy · 01-13-2008, 02:14 PM

charlie to me is not even bigger then bosh.. my memory might be shot, but thats what i seem to remember...
and i know bargnani is taller, has more weight & height then bosh... Bargnani has legs like trees, which could be deceiving.. ex. Yao Ming.

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