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02-08-2008, 12:29 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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lol @ born in the 70's. They were born in 79. They are 28 years old, I didnt realize that was old.
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I never said they were Hedo and Lewis were old, just older then our core. In three years when our guys are at their peak, Lewis and Hedo will be 31-32 and a small injury at that age can take longer to come back from....not to mention that it is harder for a wing player to stay at the top of their game then it is for a banger.
It was just to point out that were are in good shape going forward.
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02-08-2008, 12:52 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
i fully believe toronto needs a sam dalembert or a sean williams... top notch shotblocker, with good defensive mindset & a strong finisher at the rim,.
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02-08-2008, 01:26 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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Originally Posted by southeasy
i fully believe toronto needs a sam dalembert or a sean williams... top notch shotblocker, with good defensive mindset & a strong finisher at the rim,.
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Sure.....off the bench!
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02-08-2008, 02:31 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
So, the Raptors should just go get a real, honest-to-goodness 5, eh? Hold on while Colangelo goes to Centres R Us and gets on. Oh, wait. The reason Toronto doesn't have a real, honest-to-goodness 5 (aside from Nesterovic, whose only flaw is that he's way too slow and slightly less athletic than Dalembaert) is twofold: (1) the traditional half-court set is meant to be a fallback option in their offense (they focus on pick-and-rolls/pick-and-pops); and (2) true, honest-to-goodness centers are hard to find and harder to trade for (unless your team is run by idiots like Chris Wallace or Jim Paxson). Toronto has a 5: his name is Rasho Nesterovic. And the only way the Raps are going to get another 5 is through the draft. If everyone's this hot for a 5, they should campaign Colangelo to trade up in the draft to get Roy Hibbert, who's a true, honest-to-goodness 5 and will be ready to take over Nesterovic's spot in 2 years when the latter's contract runs out.
So there you have it: Chandler, Dalembaert, etc. are unavailable and not coming to Toronto anytime soon. Roy Hibbert, though, could, with the right moves, be wearing number 55 for the Raptors next year and cleansing the number of its horrible Araujo karma.
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02-08-2008, 04:09 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
We need a scorer on the wing plain and simple. If that player can also be a defensive beast that can rebound and play tough, than awesome. If not we need one of those guys at the other wing position (I'm thinking slasher at the 2, brute player at the 3)..
We need Bargnani to develop so we can either trade one of him or Bosh (this is if the Bosh-Bargnani experiment at the 4-5 fails)
Now, we can acquire these things through trade (like I said hoping Bargnani develops, see what happens there.. waiting for TJ to get healthy so we can trade him) or we have to hit a gem in the mid-late draft.
I like our situation in '09 though. Not so much the offseason, because I believe we won't have as much cap as many think with the resigning of certain players.. But the fact that we will have so many expiring contracts that we can flip to teams that want capspace, or to rebuild or both.
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02-08-2008, 04:39 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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Originally Posted by bigbabyjesus
We need Bargnani to develop so we can either trade one of him or Bosh (this is if the Bosh-Bargnani experiment at the 4-5 fails)
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That's the stupidest ****ing thing I've read in the last month. Bosh will never, ever be traded unless he morphs into Wince ****ing Carter v2.0. Bosh is the Raptors.
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02-08-2008, 07:32 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
Maggette would look nice playing w/ the current toronto team..
Not that i really like him as a player, but he can beast all by himself.
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02-08-2008, 08:53 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
We have a scorer at the 3, he's name is Kapono
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02-08-2008, 09:16 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
kapono is a shooter, not a scorer, juan dixon is more of a scorer then kapono.. we need someone to body people & get to the line from inside out, not outside in.
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02-08-2008, 09:36 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
We definately need a scorer from the wings, if NJ has a firesale maybe we can get RJ. We need somone who can create their own shot, and attack the rim. We have our PG, we have our big in Bosh, we need a superior guy on the wings.
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02-08-2008, 11:29 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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Originally Posted by osman
We definately need a scorer from the wings, if NJ has a firesale maybe we can get RJ. We need somone who can create their own shot, and attack the rim. We have our PG, we have our big in Bosh, we need a superior guy on the wings.
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RJ will never ever play for the Raps...and as a Raps fan I am disgusted by suggestion
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02-09-2008, 04:18 AM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
you gotta look at the young guys comin in. thornton would obviously be nice. jeff green is in the mold. we can't trade for either, really, but those are the types BC has to look for. we'll make a consolidation trade down the road but i'm more interested in the younguns.
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02-09-2008, 04:22 AM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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Originally Posted by bigbabyjesus
We need a scorer on the wing plain and simple. If that player can also be a defensive beast that can rebound and play tough, than awesome. If not we need one of those guys at the other wing position (I'm thinking slasher at the 2, brute player at the 3)..
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I'm with you on this one. We don't need an allstar, just someone who is more than a jump shooter at these 2 positions.
We can also use a wide body guy like a Craig Smith/Glen Davis/Paul Milisap guy off the bench. Humphries is decent, but he doesn't take up sufficient space down low.
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