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02-10-2008, 02:48 AM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
don't get me wrong, I love AP. I'm just saying that we don't have any SG that can slash inside. Even if you have Ray Allen/Michael Redd/Rip Hamilton all on the same team, you still need someone that is more than a jump shooter on your team.
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02-10-2008, 09:47 AM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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NON ****ING ALL STAR!!!!!!!!! one more time for you NON All-Star.
I highly suggest you see a pre-school teacher.
Apparently having the best shooter in the NBA is not good enough or not a decent "Role player" huh?
TO fans are spoiled.
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lol so you want to compare Parker and Moon to non all stars? Thats fine, but should they not be compared to other starters in the league at those positions? Not a bunch of scrubs, yes I know I would rather have Parker over Matt Carroll....
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02-10-2008, 10:34 AM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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I don't think AP is any worst than Manu.
As much as Bowen is a much better defender, I wouldn't necessarily put him miles ahead of Moon.
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No I meant sg. I type really fast and carelessly ask anyone. I hate speeling and grammer. I only care about it in English where i got an A. What do you mean they are starting Parker.
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Originally Posted by vincedunkedonzo2
I think Toronto's hate of Vince has a lot to do with Canada's hate of America. I totally agree if Vince wasnt on the Raps they would face the same fate as the Grizzlies they would be moved. Vince did not quit on you. You quit on Vince.
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02-10-2008, 10:46 AM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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Jesus would you just read? I said best or SECOND BEST.
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there's a reason for that. but i guess if we were to make Parker our second option, he would look just as good as, for argument's sake, Rip Hamilton?
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No I meant sg. I type really fast and carelessly ask anyone. I hate speeling and grammer. I only care about it in English where i got an A. What do you mean they are starting Parker.
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I think Toronto's hate of Vince has a lot to do with Canada's hate of America. I totally agree if Vince wasnt on the Raps they would face the same fate as the Grizzlies they would be moved. Vince did not quit on you. You quit on Vince.
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02-10-2008, 10:51 AM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
people, he said parker was as good as manu
lets just let that sink in for a minute.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha i cant get over that
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02-10-2008, 12:24 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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there's a reason for that. but i guess if we were to make Parker our second option, he would look just as good as, for argument's sake, Rip Hamilton?
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Calderon and Bosh are our 2 best players, of course we wont be as good at the 2 and 3.
Bowen is a good defender and he can shoot the 3 that's all he can do. For crying out loud, STEVE NASH IS DEFENDING HIM.
Manu is obviously better than AP but by how much?
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02-10-2008, 12:29 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
Manu is the better slasher/scorer from that stand point..
AP does have him on shooting & possibly very well as defence.
it's not that much of an outlandish claim, HOWEVER, of course T.O. would love to have a guy with driving skill like Manu, it would greatly help our team.
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02-10-2008, 12:36 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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lol so you want to compare Parker and Moon to non all stars? Thats fine, but should they not be compared to other starters in the league at those positions? Not a bunch of scrubs, yes I know I would rather have Parker over Matt Carroll....
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Non All Stars does not equal scrubs.
http://www.basketballforum.com/newre...eply&p=5278847
approximate depth chart
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Uta
seattle
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Minny
Mil, yes he is better than Redd dont get fooled by Redd's contract. AP is a better shooter than Redd and what the hell is Redd good for? Yes, shooting. The only thing Redd might be better for is he is more clutch but then again he is the 1rst option so that is not a good sample for comparison.
Memphis
LAC
Indy
GS?
Dallas
Cle
non all stars better than Parker
JJ, J-Rich, Manu (only 1 All Star Appearance), Gordon although that's arguable.
That's pretty ****ing decent, don't forget he is 4th in 3pt shooting in the ****ing league.
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02-10-2008, 12:57 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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Manu is the better slasher/scorer from that stand point..
AP does have him on shooting & possibly very well as defence.
it's not that much of an outlandish claim, HOWEVER, of course T.O. would love to have a guy with driving skill like Manu, it would greatly help our team.
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Please guys...please let's just stop here before it gets any worse.
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No I meant sg. I type really fast and carelessly ask anyone. I hate speeling and grammer. I only care about it in English where i got an A. What do you mean they are starting Parker.
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I think Toronto's hate of Vince has a lot to do with Canada's hate of America. I totally agree if Vince wasnt on the Raps they would face the same fate as the Grizzlies they would be moved. Vince did not quit on you. You quit on Vince.
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02-10-2008, 12:58 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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Originally Posted by Dee-Zy
Non All Stars does not equal scrubs.
http://www.basketballforum.com/newre...eply&p=5278847
approximate depth chart
AP is better than
the starters at the 2 for
Was
Uta
seattle
sacto?
NO
Minny
Mil, yes he is better than Redd dont get fooled by Redd's contract. AP is a better shooter than Redd and what the hell is Redd good for? Yes, shooting. The only thing Redd might be better for is he is more clutch but then again he is the 1rst option so that is not a good sample for comparison.
Memphis
LAC
Indy
GS?
Dallas
Cle
non all stars better than Parker
JJ, J-Rich, Manu (only 1 All Star Appearance), Gordon although that's arguable.
That's pretty ****ing decent, don't forget he is 4th in 3pt shooting in the ****ing league.
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No I meant sg. I type really fast and carelessly ask anyone. I hate speeling and grammer. I only care about it in English where i got an A. What do you mean they are starting Parker.
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Originally Posted by vincedunkedonzo2
I think Toronto's hate of Vince has a lot to do with Canada's hate of America. I totally agree if Vince wasnt on the Raps they would face the same fate as the Grizzlies they would be moved. Vince did not quit on you. You quit on Vince.
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02-10-2008, 01:25 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
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Please guys...please let's just stop here before it gets any worse.
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you don't think parker is a better shooter & defender then ginobili?
you don't think he would help our team?
i'm not sure what your implying.
i didn't make any crazy claim, i'm sure most would actually agree with everything i said.
BTW, just incase nobody here is aware, Kapono & Parker are actually #1 & #2 respectively in NBA 3-Pt %... when is the last time that Ever happened.
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02-10-2008, 01:30 PM
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Re: Let's be real... what do we really need?
better shooter perhaps, but we are talking about overall here. AP is nice but he is at least a couple notches lower than where Manu is at.
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02-10-2008, 01:45 PM
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