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southeasy · 05-10-2008, 10:00 AM

IMO, Marcus Haislip is one of the best players in the world not in the NBA. going to europe really like.. Seriously, brought his game to the next level.

he can do everything there is to do in the game of basketball at the PF slot. he can hit jumpers (three's), he can steal, block, make no-look passes, unselfish, rebounder, & crazy dribbles for a big. absolutely destroyed the memphis grizzlies and other nba competition this past preseason. i'd love him here.

btw Baston only did nothing, because the time he got to prove his game was essentially nothing. Haislip has more tendancy to get his game off (like a delfino in a way), compared to that of a low-key like Baston.

Dee-Zy · 05-10-2008, 12:06 PM

I can't believe Melo is on the block but him and Bosh would make us instant contenders AFTER we get a solid 5.

billfindlay10 · 05-10-2008, 02:54 PM

Melo could be a great piece, Bosh has played with him on team USA a=so there is some history with them. The upgrade in scoring and defensive attention that would be given to Anthony would change us completely. I don't think any other major upgrade wold be needed, provided that Bargnani turns it up a bit this summer getting healthy and working on his game and not being with his national team....I think that hurt him this year.

seifer0406 · 05-10-2008, 03:36 PM

I don't think we have enough trade pieces for Colangelo to even attempt such a trade.

Mr_B · 05-10-2008, 04:21 PM

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I don't think we have enough trade pieces for Colangelo to even attempt such a trade.

You don't think so

Carmelo makes 14 mill Tj or Jose gonna make 8 mill Denver needs to get more athletic and better defensively insert Joey and his 2 mill thats 10mill with 4 mill remainling you can go anyway Added Garbo or AP. Also imo Denver wants to blow it up it strikes me that that they put Melo on the and his 3 remaining on the block rather than Ai and his expiring contract if Blowing it up the route they want to go then either Tj or Jose with an expiring of AP or Rasho will get it done

SkywalkerAC · 05-10-2008, 05:51 PM

Melo isn't exactly some random player, he's an allstar. i assume kiki would want Bosh.

spuriousjones · 05-10-2008, 06:26 PM

think of how much trouble melo must really be for the nuggs to even contemplate trading him. and i don't remember reading anything about them looking/wanting to trade him, just that they'd "listen". there's a big difference. its a gm's job to listen--that's the essence of the job. if bc refused to listen to offers for bosh he should be fired.

problem with haislip is that sam's already coached him out of the league twice. ok, that's not fair, he assistant coached him out of the league one of those times. but i'm pretty sure he was on our roster for a time

wasn't it marcus and jelani that got david (future raptors coach) blatt fired?

Mr_B · 05-10-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SkywalkerAC

Melo isn't exactly some random player, he's an allstar. i assume kiki would want Bosh.

Well if you look at the star trades over the years you never get full value for a superstar we should know better than anybody lol

vinsanity77 · 05-10-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SkywalkerAC

Melo isn't exactly some random player, he's an allstar. i assume kiki would want Bosh.

actually... kiki works for the Nets now... but we all know what you mean...
i actually think melo to raps is feasible but only if Denver were to overhaul its roster.

We would have to give up calderon/tj, obviously, (hopefully its TJ),Bargnani and our pick this year to get it done. From the Nugs' point of view, they would have to get rid of AI as well, as much as I hate to say it cuz a TJ/AI tandem would just be like a Anthony Carter/AI tandem on defence. for the nuggets, the lineup would like
Camby, Bargnani, K-mart, JR Smith, TJ. There should be more ball movement with this lineup as Bargnani's a decent passer for a big man and TJ being a better playmaker than Anthony Carter.

seifer0406 · 05-10-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_B

You don't think so

Carmelo makes 14 mill Tj or Jose gonna make 8 mill Denver needs to get more athletic and better defensively insert Joey and his 2 mill thats 10mill with 4 mill remainling you can go anyway Added Garbo or AP. Also imo Denver wants to blow it up it strikes me that that they put Melo on the and his 3 remaining on the block rather than Ai and his expiring contract if Blowing it up the route they want to go then either Tj or Jose with an expiring of AP or Rasho will get it done

It's not a matter of money, it's the fact that neither TJ nor Calderon are anywhere in the same echelon as Carmelo. The problem with Denver's cap situation lies in Nene and Kmart, just getting rid of Melo isn't going to help them rebuild.

The only offer that we have that is anywhere near "considerable" is perhaps Calderon/Bargnani/Rasho/AP/Garbo/1st round pick(s) for Melo and Kmart. That is still really pushing it as I just don't think the amount of potential that is created for Denver through this trade justifies them getting rid of a 24 year old whose potential is still much higher than anybody in this trade.

Another reason why I said we have no chance is because there are many teams out there that can give much better offers than what we have right now. Portland could give something like Outlaw/Aldridge/pick/Raef for Melo, Miami could trade their pick + Marion for Melo, Hawks have an assortment of young talent with Josh Smith/Marvin Williams, the Mavs could trade them Josh Howard and more, Magic with Turkolu, etc. I can think of more than 15 teams in the league that can use someone like Melo and almost all of their offers are at least comparable or better than ours.

From the Raptors prospective, if we are going to make a big change by gutting the team to go after a certain player, I much rather we go after lower profile guys that can be had for less. Someone like Marion/Howard/Artest would all fit our team right now and are more realistic in terms of attainability.

SkywalkerAC · 05-10-2008, 11:45 PM

Chris Anderson a free agent?

Mr_B · 05-11-2008, 08:28 AM

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Chris Anderson a free agent?

stay away from him

southeasy · 05-11-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by spuriousjones

think of how much trouble melo must really be for the nuggs to even contemplate trading him. and i don't remember reading anything about them looking/wanting to trade him, just that they'd "listen". there's a big difference. its a gm's job to listen--that's the essence of the job. if bc refused to listen to offers for bosh he should be fired.

problem with haislip is that sam's already coached him out of the league twice. ok, that's not fair, he assistant coached him out of the league one of those times. but i'm pretty sure he was on our roster for a time

wasn't it marcus and jelani that got david (future raptors coach) blatt fired?

are you talking the haislip in milwaukee in regards to sam? Marcus did play for toronto's summerleague team one year, and was the best player on the team, but left unsigned, went over to euro, and since then, exploded and matured as a player. i can see him coming back over as a AP type. needing the PT in europe to expand his game

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