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05-06-2008, 11:59 AM
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Re: T.J Ford/Jose Calderon To.....
Sheldon is like 6'6" how the hell are we going to have him alongside Bosh? Bosh can't play the 5 and neither can the landlord.
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05-06-2008, 12:16 PM
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Re: T.J Ford/Jose Calderon To.....
Sheldon Williams is listed at 6'9", 250 lbs. Ben Wallace has made a pretty good career playing center at 6'9", 240.
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05-06-2008, 12:19 PM
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Re: T.J Ford/Jose Calderon To.....
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Sheldon is like 6'6" how the hell are we going to have him alongside Bosh? Bosh can't play the 5 and neither can the landlord.
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Not as a starter but as some girth off the bench, an upgrade over Humphries. Sheldon measured at 6' 7 1/2" in flat feet and a great 7'4 1/4" reach....better than guys like Bosh, Bogut and Boozer.
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05-06-2008, 01:32 PM
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i'm a firm believer that size itself is far less important to a player's game than the way he uses his size. shelden williams, for example, was born to play in the paint. his arms are active, he views shotblocking as a real option and he doesn't look around before attacking the glass. he's not naturally gifted but he knows how to utilize the gifts he does have. that's an underrated trait, imo.
the fact of the matter is that, at least to date in his career, andrea bargnani is quite the opposite. he won't block/alter shots unless he surprises himself (i think he can work on that), his reactions to go to the glass are very slow and delayed- as if he's seeking permission to grab the ball- and he is imo a player who defends as if he's always waiting for help to arrive. these are things that make him seem much, much smaller than he is.
will it change? hard to say. confidence is the operative word. some people eventually get it, some never do. as a european kid, i know nothing about andrea bargnani's upbringing/personality, so i can't even hazard a guess at this point. the team would have to make the call on that one.
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05-06-2008, 02:39 PM
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i like sheldon. he looks like a giant dwarf.
jose's blog-
wants to start. wants to win. would take sports offer over economic

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05-06-2008, 02:59 PM
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To compare players with Ben Wallace isn't very fair. Wallace is a "oddity", not the norm.
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05-06-2008, 03:41 PM
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pretty sweet. good outlook, decent english vocabulary, but apparantly forgot it was new jersey not cleveland to eliminate us last year haha
he really is one of the true leaders on our team and he's right, we lack response in games we should win.
nice predictions too, but the spurs won't be there, lucky for calderon.
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05-07-2008, 09:08 AM
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Re: T.J Ford/Jose Calderon To.....
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pretty sweet. good outlook, decent english vocabulary, but apparantly forgot it was new jersey not cleveland to eliminate us last year haha
he really is one of the true leaders on our team and he's right, we lack response in games we should win.
nice predictions too, but the spurs won't be there, lucky for calderon.
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is it a veiled shot at sam?
we don't respond. we lose to worse teams. etc. is he taking a shot at the collective mind of the team: "this is not a team that can only aspire to lose in the first round."
probably shouldn't read too much into the writings of a guy that can't remember who we lost to.
jose's a keeper but it'll still be interesting to find out what packages are offered for him.
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05-07-2008, 10:30 AM
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Re: T.J Ford/Jose Calderon To.....
Przybilla + Outlaw for Calderon.
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05-07-2008, 11:21 AM
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Przybilla + Outlaw for Calderon.
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that's been proposed on here before. of course fans have no say in the matter but it was refused nevertheless.
keep in mind that collangelo refused josh childress and the no.11 last summer for jose and jose's value has exploded since.
yes, jose would look great with the blazers but i really don't believe its going to happen. like portland, toronto needs to concentrate talent from quantity to quality and is most probably not going to trade a top young pointguard for bench players.
ford, on the other hand, is attainable. he gets bedraggled online but is very good young pointguard himself and has a very high ceiling. he's a better pointguard than anyone in this years' draft right now. i think only rose has a higher ceiling.
its kind of like portland's situation with rudy fernandez (if rudy pans out)-- a quality young player that's stuck behind an even better player.
in that vein, a "doable" deal between the teams might revolve around tj and fernandez.
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05-07-2008, 12:20 PM
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Re: T.J Ford/Jose Calderon To.....
jose's blog entry sounds like a vent to me. i have no idea what happened at his exit interview but that's pretty eye-opening stuff.
of course, i don't blame him for anything he said (typed), i'm not surprised that he feels that way- i'm just a little surprised that it came out like this. there must be a reason for it, and it's the reason that i'm intrigued by. any time things come out of nowhere, even if you always knew they were there, you still wonder why they came out now.
i would've loved to have been a fly on the wall at his interview. something appears to have set him off.
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05-07-2008, 03:22 PM
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Re: T.J Ford/Jose Calderon To.....
Fans often put too much stock into what a player says in interviews. like when VC was here and he lied and lied and just said crap he knew he should say when he didn't mean it.
Some guys, like TJ, are dumb and say the wrong thing all the time. Mike James got caught in the Toronto media spotlight and lost himself the chance to stay here in a good fitting role.
Other guys, like Jose, are smart and say the 'correct' thing during the season to the press. They are good teammates and don't cause trouble. They share their true thoughts only when it is appropriate. As a FA now he is letting it be known what he would like.
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05-07-2008, 11:07 PM
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wouldn't mind artest if only because it would put pressure on the team to perform now. the calls for patience and excuses for being young would not apply anymore.
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that's the best lineup i can think of to "win now" by trading TJ. maybe Maggette but i don't see him as more of a winner than Ronron.
personally, i still think we should be prepared to tank next. trade with portland (Calderon or TJ), go young, and be prepared to tank if Bosh doesn't hold up. i don't know that we're in any position to "go for it", even in the east.
but maybe i'm wrong. i like the lineup to compete now and BC isn't really stuck with no flexibility.
i also like bargnani possibly coming off the bench. i think he can get stronger and be an effective starting center or even start at SF but there's nothing wrong with coming off the bench, as he should get more shots that way.
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05-08-2008, 07:35 AM
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