Free agent forward Hedo Turkoglu changed his mind Friday, deciding not to join the Portland Trail Blazers, opting instead to accept an offer from the Toronto Raptors, sources told ESPN.com.
The Raptors last-minute bid will give Turkoglu all of the salary-cap space they will get by renouncing their rights to Shawn Marion, Anthony Parker and Carlos Delfino. The Raptors expect to have about $10.1 million in cap space to give to Turkoglu for his first-year salary; he would get an eight percent annual raise over the next four seasons of the deal, a source told ESPN.com.
I still feel indifferent about this deal. Hedo doesn't really address our needs of depth, defence, toughness, rebounding, but he is an all-star talent that may convince bosh to stay and even if he doesn't will soften the blow of bosh leaving.
I will only lean towards the "happy" side for this deal only if Delfino re-signs, as we will only be losing AP and Marion. We weren't going to re-sign Joey G anyways.
Is there anyway we can fit both Delfino and AP under the cap even if we did sign Hedo? I would for sure be very happy and satisfied with this deal if that happens
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I still feel indifferent about this deal. Hedo doesn't really address our needs of depth, defence, toughness, rebounding, but he is an all-star talent that may convince bosh to stay and even if he doesn't will soften the blow of bosh leaving.
I will only lean towards the "happy" side for this deal only if Delfino re-signs, as we will only be losing AP and Marion. We weren't going to re-sign Joey G anyways.
Is there anyway we can fit both Delfino and AP under the cap even if we did sign Hedo? I would for sure be very happy and satisfied with this deal if that happens
I think he is considered a "good" rebounder for a small forward. He's a descent defender too. We have derozan to guard the best wing player anyways.
The Raptors signed the #1 free agent. Atleast this shows we are about winning.
I dont know if anythings 'official' yet. Dont listen to ESPN, they already steered you wrong. Local Orlando news recently reported: "Hedo says no to Portland, and looks like he wants to go to Toronto for 60mil. However there still is a deal on the table for Hedo from Orlando, 5 years 45million. Expect him to take the Toronto one though."
So it's likely Hedo will go to Toronto, but after taxes, the Orlando deal isnt that far off i dont think... We'll see what happens soon enough. As we recently just learned, nothing is official quite yet.
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I love the signing, but I am worried about how we round out the rest of the roster, especially at the 2/3 spots. Will Ukic get more burn at the SG spot and Banks more burn at the PG? Or will Hedo play the point forward position when Jose is off the floor? Maybe the Raps have Douby in line as the backup SG.
Is there anyway we can fit both Delfino and AP under the cap even if we did sign Hedo? I would for sure be very happy and satisfied with this deal if that happens
Not 100% sure on this but I think Hedo contract leaves us with 2.1 Million before going into Lux tax now will Ap sign for 2.1? doubt it might be enough to get Delfino with that cash though either way its gonna be tight and our bench going to be thin unless B.C can find a way to flip Banks or Hump into something worthwhile the way it stands right now a combo of Bosh,Barg and Hedo going to have be on the court at all times more than likely atleast 2 of the 3 I don't trust our current bench
Evans- no offense hes there to rebound and provide toughness
Hump-a blackhole on offense , a PF who thinks hes a SF
O'Bryant-Borderline D-league material
Douby- hes alright
Banks-Garbage
Roko-A jumper away from being solid
Pops- Only guy I trust off the bench right now besides Evans
So we need Delfino here BC has to work something out
So as the roster stands right now it would look like Derozan could start at the 2
Jose
Demar
Hedo
Chris
Andrea
I would really like our starting 5 if we had a player with a little more NBA experience at the shooting guard spot. With this signing it would seem difficult to re-sign Carlos Delfino, but he would be a solid fit with that group. He is a good rebounding guard, solid defender (not great but good), unselfish passer, and can shoot from deep...a little inconsistent, but a threat.
How BC fills out the roster will go a long way in determining how this season plays out. Evans provides some depth up front, add in Hump and O'Bryant and they can handle the minutes. I would like to move Hump and free up the spot for Pops, but not sure that will happen. Summer league will be interesting, we may need to find someone for the vet minimum to contribute minutes.
Awful signing. This does NOTHING to help the Raptors.
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ok Humph has got to go to clear cap oom to add a SG, Derozan is a raw SG with a weak jumper but with Hedu on board he woldnt be required to takle lorts opf jumprrs but more to slash, drive on offense, and play tight man to man D.
we do need a good 2nd unit SG after this move if we get rid of humph then I guess maybe Delfino can fit or House heres a list of the SG's
Allen Iverson Unrestricted
Marquis Daniels Unrestricted
Anthony Parker Unrestricted
Rashad McCants Restricted
Anthony Morrow Unguaranteed
Luther Head Unrestricted
Gerald Green Unrestricted
Von Wafer Unrestricted
Damien Wilkins Early termination option
Bobby Jackson Unrestricted
Keith Bogans Unrestricted
Sasha Pavlovic Partially guaranteed
Dahntay Jones Unrestricted
Fred Jones Unrestricted
Salim Stoudamire Unguaranteed
Kareem Rush Unrestricted
Juan Dixon Unrestricted
Sonny Weems Partially guaranteed
Thomas Gardner Option on restriction
Joe Crawford Unguaranteed
Quinton Ross Unrestricted
Shannon Brown Unrestricted
Alex Acker Option on restriction
Morris Almond Unrestricted
Quincy Douby Unguaranteed
Dontell Jefferson Unguaranteed
Greg Buckner Partially guaranteed
Maurice Ager Unrestricted
DeMarcus Nelson Unguaranteed
Mario West Option on restriction
need a experienced guy from this list I would lean toeard daniels and Brown, Gerald Green for maybe 2-3 mill.
lets say its Daniels we add our team is
Starting Calderon Daniels Turkeglu Bosh Bargnani
Bench Ukic Derozan Evans Pop 9 man rotation extras Banks(do we want him back?, Douby same O'Bryant[sleaper]
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wooo. It's kind of risky because Hedo won't be the same player at 35 but this is the best chance the Raps have of convincing Bosh to say. Whether he stays or not, building around Calderon, Bargnani and Turkoglu for the next couple of years will be fine regardless.
I don't know how someone can say Turkoglu gives the Raptors nothing. Since VC has left, the Raptors have constantly lost close games because they didn't have anyone who could finish. Watching Chris opt for a 18 footer instead of driving to the bucket with the game on the line has been discouraging to say the least. Now we actually have someone who is comfortable taking that game winning shot.
He is also a decent rebounder, maybe not for his size, but for the SF position. Also, Calderon has had a knack for missing a long stretch of games since he entered the NBA. Turkoglu, who can handle the ball very well, can take the load off Ukic or whoever our PG is if Calderon were to go down, or if Calderon is just not on the floor in that particular time.
Turkoglu is easily our most complete offensive threat. He can take the three, he has a solid midrange game, and he takes the ball to the basket.
Yes this signing is a gamble considering Turkoglu's age, but I think this is the best starting lineup we have ever had, so it should be an interesting season to say the least.
Awful signing. This does NOTHING to help the Raptors.
i actually kind of agree with you. i don't think this signing is going to change the raptors all that much. we weren't going anywhere so it would have been wise to take a chance on young guys, trade for draft picks, and go from there. this signing makes us go back to being a mediocre team. maybe good enough to make the playoffs, but is a lock for first round exit.
if we were a pretty good team that's almost ready to contend, i would have liked this signing, but this signing really hurts our flexibility for years to come. hedo is not worth 12 million. if it were marion at 8 or parker at 4-6mil, they would have been tradeable for picks and young guys. hedo at 12 mil would be more difficult to move, though not impossible i suppose.
with about 2mil left, the raptors should just go after von wafer. wafer isn't really wanted by the rockets nor elsewhere from what i'm seeing. he's a young guy who can really pan out. his offensive game reminds me of a young ray allen.
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Why, because his name isn't Rudy Fernandez? Have you even seen Turkoglu play?
1. He's "earning" $50 million dollars for 4 years. I knew someone was going to be stupid and giving him that contract but I didn't think it was the Raptors. He single-handedly murdered the Raptors' cap space for the next 4 years.
2. He doesn't do anything to help the Raptors two biggest needs: defending and rebounding. He can't defend for **** and the only rebounds he gets are by accident. In other words, he's a taller, more expensive Jason Kapono.
3. He's not athletic. He has exactly one offensive move - the step-in, step-back three [to his credit, it works because, apparently, nobody knows it's coming yet] - and his one skill is something the Raptors are absurdly good at: shooting.
This signing is the definition of skill duplication. It's ****ing stupid to commit that much money to someone who can't ****ing defend me. So, yeah, his name isn't Rudy Fernandez - who's a much younger, much cheaper, much more versatile player, BTW - but that's not why it's a bad signing.
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Its official Raps sign Hedo
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