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Old 12-13-2012, 02:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Who is your most skilled player then?
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Well thats easy. Demar averaging 18 and 5 rebounds (smh our sg is out rebounding our PF) on 45%
Kyle Lowry averaging 16/6ast/5 rebs (smh our PG is out rebounding our PF)

I'll admitt I wasn't a fan of the DeRozan contract, but at least he plays hard every game and his offense is coming along very nicely.

Both of these guys are better than Bargs
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I would put them all on the same level. They're all borderline allstar caliber guys.

If I remember correctly you were shit talking Dermar pretty heavily, so its strange for you to use him now in this scenario.
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Yes I was. But I feel he has really stepped up. And I can admitt when I was wrong, but Bargs is not on the same level as DeMar and Lowry. Both have the ability to change up their offensive game, Bargnani is a one trick pony and his shot hasn't been falling because teams have learned to play him tight.
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Yes I was. But I feel he has really stepped up. And I can admitt when I was wrong, but Bargs is not on the same level as DeMar and Lowry. Both have the ability to change up their offensive game, Bargnani is a one trick pony and his shot hasn't been falling because teams have learned to play him tight.
I disagree. Teams are just now all the sudden finding how to play Bargnani? Seems like it took them quite a long time. And its not like the idea of guarding a european big man who likes to shoot is new to teams around the league.

Hes a streaky player. Hes not a star, but hes not some come off the bench for Ed Davis player you're making him out to be either.
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I'd take just about anything for Andrea Bargnani at this point. I don't think he should be apart of the future plans.
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I disagree. Teams are just now all the sudden finding how to play Bargnani? Seems like it took them quite a long time. And its not like the idea of guarding a european big man who likes to shoot is new to teams around the league.

Hes a streaky player. Hes not a star, but hes not some come off the bench for Ed Davis player you're making him out to be either.
On this team I think he is. Our bench lacks a scoring player. Our starting unit needs better rebounding and defense. And 21 games is a pretty long streak. I'd rather (and most knowledgeable Raptors fans) have Bargs as a 6th man or be moved for a SF.
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I'd take just about anything for Andrea Bargnani at this point. I don't think he should be apart of the future plans.
+1. There is no future for him here as a Raptor. With other teams is a different story, but he doesn't fit the Raptors system and players
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On this team I think he is. Our bench lacks a scoring player. Our starting unit needs better rebounding and defense. And 21 games is a pretty long streak. I'd rather (and most knowledgeable Raptors fans) have Bargs as a 6th man or be moved for a SF.
Hes not able to play SF adequately, and what looks like bad defense now would look Steve Nash horrendous if you put him at SF.

And your bench lacks a scorer because for yet another year, you're a weak team with no depth. A handful of decent players surrounded with "try hard" deep bench players mascarading as big minute NBA players due to the all so familiar circumstance.
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+1. There is no future for him here as a Raptor. With other teams is a different story, but he doesn't fit the Raptors system and players
Just like I pointed out when you were bad mouthing Derozan and I was defending him, I'll say again that you seem quick to want to get rid of any skilled players on the team.


Next year or the year after, the same guys will now be calling for Lowrys head.
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Bargnani would be a great fit as a 3rd guy, he'd probably flourish in that situation. I think it's clear that both he and the Raptors need to part ways.
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Hes not able to play SF adequately, and what looks like bad defense now would look Steve Nash horrendous if you put him at SF.

And your bench lacks a scorer because for yet another year, you're a weak team with no depth. A handful of decent players surrounded with "try hard" deep bench players mascarading as big minute NBA players due to the all so familiar circumstance.
I said be moved FOR a SF, not moved to SF. Bargs wouldn't be able to defend the shittiest SF in the league.
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Just like I pointed out when you were bad mouthing Derozan and I was defending him, I'll say again that you seem quick to want to get rid of any skilled players on the team.


Next year or the year after, the same guys will now be calling for Lowrys head.
The only reason I was bad mouthing DeRozan, was because of that contract (which actually doesn't look to bad now)

And quick to call for peoples heads? Bargs has played 21 games, and I waited to see how they play without him. Moving Bargs is addition by subtraction for the Raptors
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I said be moved FOR a SF, not moved to SF. Bargs wouldn't be able to defend the shittiest SF in the league.
Ah, fair enough. Sorry for the confusion.

I thought "Bargs at the 3? Come on man........"
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The only reason I was bad mouthing DeRozan, was because of that contract (which actually doesn't look to bad now)

And quick to call for peoples heads? Bargs has played 21 games, and I waited to see how they play without him. Moving Bargs is addition by subtraction for the Raptors
They aren't a better team without him. No.
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