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Old 12-29-2012, 08:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Raptors Bargnani is "a lock to be moved"

According to ESPN.

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It has been widely assumed for months that the Raptors would try to package Calderon's expiring deal with Barngani's in hopes of landing a top-flight player in return. But the Raps have actually functioned better so far this season when Lowry -- who brings an undeniable "swagger," as coach Dwane Casey likes to say, but is also undeniably up and down with his moods -- has been out of the lineup nursing a variety of injuries.

One source close to the situation said Friday that Bargnani remains "a lock to be moved." That naturally depends on finding a taker for the underachieving Italian forward, but Lowry's contract shouldn't be too hard to attach to a trade, valued at $5.8 million this season and with only $1 million guaranteed of the $6.2 million he's owed next season.
This got me to thinking about landing spots. It probably needs to be a team in desperate need of a stretch 4 with a defensive stopper/rebounder already in place at the center position... or an all-around great defender to go small with. How about these?

1) Bargnani straight up for Thaddeus Young

This saves the Raptors some money and makes them immediately more athletic. At the same time, Bargs would look great as a stretch 4 with a healthy Bynum down on the block.

2) Bargnani for Devin Harris (large expiring contract), John Jenkins (young prospect), Atlanta First Round pick (young prospect)

This move would give Toronto a ton of cap space with Harris and Calderon coming off the books. Also, it would give them two more young guys with some potential to audition. The Hawks would do this because Horford/Bargs/Josh is a very balanced frontline that adds a bunch of versatility to their squad and allows Josh to shoot a little less and defend a little more.
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Re: Bargnani is "a lock to be moved"

Josh is less than ideal at SF, it's something they've definitely tried before, but I think the value is good enough that they could try it again. It's one thing when he plays minutes at SF next to Horford and Zaza (or something similar, two post players), but it may be another to have a PF with SF tendencies who can stretch the floor and not clog up Josh's strong spots on the court.

The value is good enough that I wouldn't mind seeing that trade happen, though I'm not sure it would work out well enough defensively to be worth it.

Bargs to Philly looks really good on paper too.
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Re: Bargnani is "a lock to be moved"

You see what I was getting at. Josh would be the 3 on defense and Bargs would be the 3 on offense... for all intents and purposes.

That would also make their rotation more normal and balanced all around.
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It would also make them incredibly tall 3-5, without compromising too much speed.
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Re: Bargnani is "a lock to be moved"

I like it. I don't think anyone on the team is missing him right now. Notice how no one's even taking about him lately??
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It's nice to not be talking about him.

Looking forward to seeing who we get for him.
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Re: Bargnani is "a lock to be moved"

^^ Roger that!!
Mind you .... Lowry changed up his game & attitude and felt the heat while watching the team perform without him. I wonder if the same is now getting through to Bargs as he (and everyone else, Colangelo) realizes he's no longer our untouchable "star"!!
And some lessons for Casey as well .... knowing he can bench Bargs for a full game if needed... ;-)
Ohhh Yeahhhh -- Good times are a coming!!
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Lowry has adapted in a couple of months.

Bargnani has had years to adjust and seemingly has got worse. I watch him in disbelief sometimes, and not a good awe inspiring disbelief!
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Re: Bargnani is "a lock to be moved"

as soon he is healthy main back up at PF and at times at C, then showcase him for 2-4 gmes to bring his value up, some players to consider Thadd young, I would do it right away, Gasol,Milisap a few vets ala VC and brand for Bargnani.
cap wise bargs for VC @ Brand works we get a interior big man who we can use as our #3 big and VC's vet presence to help Ross and make amends with TO.
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Re: Bargnani is "a lock to be moved"

It's tough because his value isn't nearly as high as it would have been a few years ago, and you guys already seem clogged up at a lot of positions. I think the main focus needs to be around letting your young guys get major minutes, so in that sense moving him for a 1st and cap relief might be ideal.
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It's definitely time for him to go. If we could get a 1st round pick for him I'd be a happy camper.
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Re: Bargnani is "a lock to be moved"

Would something a little bigger potentially interest anybody? Jeff Teague/Devin Harris/John Jenkins/1st for Bargs/Lowry?
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Yeah.. you are going to have to bring in a bad contract if you are going to move Bargs at this point
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Re: Bargnani is "a lock to be moved"

1st rnd pick and a vet back up C who is better than Gray. This way when big val returns he starts and there is a back up and when Casey wants to play small ball he can play Amir at the 4 and possibly keep Val in at the 5 or try Ed at the 5 in small ball and Derozan at the 3 and Alan at the 2 and jose at the 1. I am thinking

reg starting line up jose DD Fields Davis Val back ups 6th man Amir Lowry Anderson Bargs and if you can get C BETTER THAN GRAY HE DRESSES AS UR 10TH MAN AND YOU SEND aCY BACK DOWN
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