AllRim

Ya this is a sad day. Caldy is a great guy and a good player. Davis has shown loads of growth and the ability to be a consistant starter.

Now we open a spot for Bargs to start when he returns (which is why I think BC wants to trade Ed). Hopefully if this does happend that somehow Lowry/DD/Gay/Bargs/Val can magically mesh together......I doubt it

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AllRim

According to Ken Berger this deal has reached the ownership level.....

The more and more I look at this trade, I still get upset at losing Ed Davis but I am starting to get excited to see if Gay can thrive in Toronto. Still, I am not happy about the deal but I'm starting to get exicted about Gay in Toronto

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AllRim

And apparently Haddadi might be involved, plan the parade route?

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seifer0406

well, you'll lose that excitement when we continue our losing ways despite all these moves. Except now we no longer have the financial flexibility that we had a couple years ago.

I just don't care about this team any more. I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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AllRim

At least try and be optomistic now that the deal is done..... No matter what, I will never stop being a Raptors fan.

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ozzzymandius

Done deal ..... I'm sooooo unhappy.
I would seriously have preferred to trade Lowry.
Worst day ever :'-(

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I feel bad for Jose. I would've liked to have seen him get moved to a playoff team at least.

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seifer0406

If you look at some of the threads on this forum I have been the biggest BC supporter for the past 3-4 years. I can be an optimist but I can't be a blind homer. The only reason this deal happened is because BC had no other options to save his job. This type of **** it let's try and see if this works kind of team building is why many bottom feeder teams continue to be bottom feeders. There is no vision or long term plan behind any of these moves. Lowry, Fields, now Gay will do nothing for us.

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-James-

I've been a BC hater (save for the Ross pick), and while I don't think this trade is great by any means, I don't see it as some disaster. This is the same Rudy Gay that kills us every year. I mean he's having an off year for his standards, sure, but just a year or two ago he was a fringe All-Star-type player and let's be honest, I'm not exactly confident that we would have gotten a better player with the cap space Calderon was about to free up.

I really do think we get more talent then we give. On paper we should have a better team. I loved Jose, don't get me wrong, but his inability to guard his position (to be fair, Lowry hasn't been stellar this season either) has always driven me nuts. I'm definitely not on BC's nuts because of this trade, but I don't want to kick them either.

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AllRim

The Ross pick? what about Drummond? And it's not about the cap space, it's about giving up Ed

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I think I made it quite clear in the draft thread that I'd have rather the pick be Drummond (seems like myself and Porn were the only ones), but yes I did like the Ross pick and am still optimistic about him.

Now while I feel like Ed Davis has absolutely exceeded what I've expected, I really don't think he's a good enough player to get upset about though to be fair, I'm definitely not as high on him as you - I just don't think he has a very high ceiling.

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AllRim

Ya, I feel he can turn into something pretty damn good. And I wasn't here on the boards for the draft, so sorry to you, I didn't know your stance.

This trade is tearing me apart. On one hand I hate to lose Caldy (Memphis wouldn't have been that bad, but Detroit sucks for him big time) but I am excited to see what Lowry does with no one ready to run him out of the starters spot.

Hate to lose Ed, but I hope Gay can revert to the player he once was, and became a franchise player. I doubt it will happen but here's to hoping.

Curious to see what this means for Bargnani, will he come back and be placed right into the starting spot once healthy enough to play those minutes. And can he start to play like he did for those 16 games last season. Or once JV comes back will it be Amir and JV starting? Amir has been playing like a man on fire lately. Or will BC finally give in and try to make another move to save his ass and trade Bargs?

The trade deadline can't get here quick enough! I need answers!!

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-James-

No harm, sir. Now don't get me wrong, just because I don't think Ed was anything special doesn't mean I think Rudy is. Again, I'm not upset at this trade but I'm not exactly excited either.

Now that being said, Amir has to be the starter here. Bargnani has absolutely lost that job. And like you, I am optimistic about Lowry as a full time starter. Hopefully he can regain his form on the defensive end. I am, however, not thrilled with the idea of JL3 being in the rotation.

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AllRim

Ya JL3 is pure garbage. And I surely hope Bargs has lost that job, but you never know with Casey and BC

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ozzzymandius

Still missing my boy Calderon. But I get it. The Gay boy had better be worth it. Ugly contract.
But where I'll feel even better .... Is when we hear the same kinda thing for Bargs !!! Then I'll be doing the big happy happy dance !!!

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