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urso53 · 04-03-2006, 06:21 PM

In a recent post I gave my opinion on how the Jazz should treat their offseason. I would, after watching the last 8-9 games, like to ammend that opinion. I still feel that the writing is on the wall for O'Connor to leave. I also felt that the jazz should get rid of boozer and look elsewhere. They may still. My point is that I based my opinion on the current trend of the NBA. That is have two elite players and the rest be role players. With the exception of Detroit that has been the formulua. But now after watching the jazz maybe with more floortime together we could be seeing a new formula. Of late the jazz have had on average 4/5 starters with double-doubles. It is hard for opponents to double team anyone and it forces every player to play defense. So now I ammend my offseason ideas to be just get energy guys, and shooters to come off the bench. If they can stay healthy and cohesive than next year will be a good year.

**endora60** · 04-03-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by urso53

In a recent post I gave my opinion on how the Jazz should treat their offseason. I would, after watching the last 8-9 games, like to ammend that opinion. I still feel that the writing is on the wall for O'Connor to leave. I also felt that the jazz should get rid of boozer and look elsewhere. They may still. My point is that I based my opinion on the current trend of the NBA. That is have two elite players and the rest be role players. With the exception of Detroit that has been the formulua. But now after watching the jazz maybe with more floortime together we could be seeing a new formula. Of late the jazz have had on average 4/5 starters with double-doubles. It is hard for opponents to double team anyone and it forces every player to play defense. So now I ammend my offseason ideas to be just get energy guys, and shooters to come off the bench. If they can stay healthy and cohesive than next year will be a good year.

Assuming Boozer doesn't go anywhere during the off-season, you could be right. These recent Jazz look more like the Pistons, with their all-around solid play, than they do a two-stars-with-filler squad.

Laurie

**Krstic All Star** · 04-03-2006, 06:37 PM

And all this has been achieved with Harpring playing at less than his full strength, it seems. While he'd be best off the bench as a sixth man, he's been starting. A top-notch 2 guard would allow Harpring to add offense off the bench as part of a nice second unit along with Collins, McLeod etc.

AK-47 · 04-03-2006, 08:47 PM

I heard that management plans on keeping the big 4 together (deron, kirilenko, okur, boozer) and then working around that. I heard it from a season ticketholder that went to the chat earlier today.

**endora60** · 04-04-2006, 07:51 AM

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And all this has been achieved with Harpring playing at less than his full strength, it seems. While he'd be best off the bench as a sixth man, he's been starting. A top-notch 2 guard would allow Harpring to add offense off the bench as part of a nice second unit along with Collins, McLeod etc.

Any suggestions as to who that top-notch two might be? Who's available?

Laurie

**endora60** · 04-04-2006, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AK-47

I heard that management plans on keeping the big 4 together (deron, kirilenko, okur, boozer) and then working around that. I heard it from a season ticketholder that went to the chat earlier today.

Only problem with that, IMO, is the severe drop-off in quality from first team to second. Besides Harpring (who, as Krstic said, does better off the bench than as a starter), that's a pretty non-descript bench squad. We need one more really decent bench guy for that to work consistently.

Laurie

AK-47 · 04-04-2006, 11:58 AM

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Only problem with that, IMO, is the severe drop-off in quality from first team to second. Besides Harpring (who, as Krstic said, does better off the bench than as a starter), that's a pretty non-descript bench squad. We need one more really decent bench guy for that to work consistently.

Laurie

draft and sign well is how you work around it imo. Because those big 4 will get a lot of minutes, then have solid rotations. (dont know who I want yet, just some players that can defend and shoot is all I ask!

**unluckyseventeen** · 04-06-2006, 06:10 PM

That was actually me that participated in that.

They felt very confident of the "big 4" (Kirilenko, Boozer, Okur and Williams) sticking together for many years to come. They also gave off the impression that if Harpring wanted to stay here, they would gladly, always accept him back.

The Jazz will not pull any major trades. However, surprisingly, they did mention Palacio as having a "decent trade value" and "proving the critics wrong". Kinda told me they were looking to move him in exchange for something... but I guess we'll see.

**endora60** · 04-07-2006, 01:15 AM

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They also gave off the impression that if Harpring wanted to stay here, they would gladly, always accept him back.

Good. Harpring's our bulldog. He'll never be an All Star, and with his physical play he'll never be healthy over a long stretch, but he's gutsy and always gives it his best shot. He's the best throwback, personality-wise, we've got to the old Stockton/Malone/Hornacek days. I'd miss him if he were gone.

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Palacio as having a "decent trade value" and "proving the critics wrong". Kinda told me they were looking to move him in exchange for something... but I guess we'll see.

That's true, actually. Palacio's turned out to be more than could've been expected, though nowhere near a real starter. He might be worth something to a team that needs a decent (not good, but decent) back-up one. Minnesota, maybe?

Laurie

AK-47 · 04-07-2006, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by unluckyseventeen

That was actually me that participated in that.

They felt very confident of the "big 4" (Kirilenko, Boozer, Okur and Williams) sticking together for many years to come. They also gave off the impression that if Harpring wanted to stay here, they would gladly, always accept him back.

The Jazz will not pull any major trades. However, surprisingly, they did mention Palacio as having a "decent trade value" and "proving the critics wrong". Kinda told me they were looking to move him in exchange for something... but I guess we'll see.

Yep, I am "jazzfan4life" in that forums that cooldude has

**endora60** · 04-09-2006, 08:54 AM

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They felt very confident of the "big 4" (Kirilenko, Boozer, Okur and Williams) sticking together for many years to come.

Does anybody else kinda wonder if Boozer is playing well just to showcase himself for a trade to someplace else? The Lakers are probably going to be looking for a good four this summer, and Boozer would fit in with big-city life maybe better than in Salt Lake.

I wish I trusted his motives, wish I trusted that he wants to stay in Utah and do well by the Jazz over the long term.

Laurie

AK-47 · 04-09-2006, 04:54 PM

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Does anybody else kinda wonder if Boozer is playing well just to showcase himself for a trade to someplace else? The Lakers are probably going to be looking for a good four this summer, and Boozer would fit in with big-city life maybe better than in Salt Lake.

I wish I trusted his motives, wish I trusted that he wants to stay in Utah and do well by the Jazz over the long term.

Laurie

Boozer wouldn't do that, the jazz would do that. because the jazz get the other end of the trade. If boozer wanted to leave utah, he could careless what talent utah ges in return. So I think that he wants to stay.

**endora60** · 04-09-2006, 06:11 PM

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Boozer wouldn't do that, the jazz would do that. because the jazz get the other end of the trade. If boozer wanted to leave utah, he could careless what talent utah ges in return. So I think that he wants to stay.

...unless he doesn't care who or what the Jazz gets in return and just wants to get the hell out of Utah.

Laurie

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