Kirilenko

Okay first of all the Jazz of all teams would be the last to decide to rebuild their organization. They was in the finals with the Bulls twice only to see the Bulls win both times...well the Jazz have been ahead of the Bulls ever since....why?...well because the Bulls almost had to rebuild after Michael and Pippen left....after that everyone was saying well wait until Malone and Stockton leave THEN the Jazz will be nothing...haha...that has yet to happen people. When it does the Jazz will still be ahead of the Bulls because they play smarter. The Bulls rebuilt with High Schoolers and overpaid "so-called" up and comers/rookies(hassel, robinson,fizer) Dont get me wrong I still think E-Rob will eventually, if healthy, be a star and along with "The C-Asylum"(Crawford Curry and Chandler) and Rose they will be awesome.

Okay on to the Jazz rebuilding...my opinion.

The Jazz lose Malone and Stockton with their huge contracts namely Malone's....

Trade Ostertag for a 2nd round choice, being that Borchardt is 100%

Make Kirilenko add Muscle/Weight

Mark Jackson retires or goes back to the Knicks

Stay away from Andre Miller....the man will get his stats but will NOT get wins or be a leader....bad choice.

Do not draft any foreign big men...unless they are skinny and can shoot the lights out(Dirk Nowitzki)

Matt Carroll or Kyle Korver fit the stereo typical Jazz player....white and can shoot the lights out.

Mario Austin or Brian Cook would be great to fill the PF position


Okay say the Jazz Draft Kyle Korver in the 1st and then grab a Ron Slay in the 2nd....Both great additions but we also traded Ostertag for another 2nd round pick that we use on Matt Carroll...

With Malone and Stockton gone we have some cap room and draw such names as...Michael Redd, Troy Hudson, and Devean George....and say the Jazz resign their free agents

Okay so here we have it...the new Utah Jazz


Center- Curtis Borchardt

PF- Ron Slay

SF- Matt Harpring

SG- Michael Redd

PG- Troy Hudson

Bench
Andrei Kirilenko-sf
Kyle Korver-sf/sg
Matt Carroll-sg
Scott Padget-pf
Devean George-sf
John Amaechi-c
Carlos Arroyo-pg
Deshawn Stevenson-sg

The only problem I have with this would be the front court...too inexperienced and too few

If somehow I could have put some more big guys with more talent on here it would be perfect...


Tell me what you think of this....

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JoeF

My first question before I even look make any comments on the post is WHY ARE ALL FANS SO ANXIOUS TO BLOW UP THEIR TEAMS AND TRY TO REBUILD? WHAT TEAMS HAVE SUCCESSFULLY DONE THIS? HAS ANYONE WHO DID THIS WON A CHAMPIONSHIP? WHICH TEAMS HAVE DONE THIS AND GOT BACK TO WINNING 45-50 GAMES?

I think that team would suck. You need a go to superstar level player. The idea is to make the Jazz a better team not go to the bottom for years. There are also some problems with the players you chose to sign. I think you should find a list of players who will be available next off season. Also where are Lopez and Collins? Both are signed for next year.

Is Borchardt really 100%? If so for how long? If he were 100%, HE WOULD BE ON THE PLAYOFF ROSTER IN PLACE OF AMAECHI! Borchardt has had the same injury 3 times in the last few years. It would idiotic to have no backup other than Amaechi for him. Amaechi makes about half what Ostertag does and contributes basically nothing. At least Ostertag contributes. If salary cap would allow it I think the Jazz would trade Amaechi for a week old sandwich and some stale chips. Ostertag has a 9 million dollar contract that expires after next season. You can probably find a team who wants salary cap space who would trade something better than a second round pick for him.

How? Some people just can't add weight. Will it affect his quickness? Quickness is AK-47's game.

He is gone. He will be signing elsewhere next season.

I don't think you can blame the Clippers problems on Andre. System can make a big difference to a player. Look at Harpring.

Why does where they are from matter? Look at Hilario, Divac, Ming etc. If I could draft them I would.

This would be a horrible 1st round pick. He is expected to be a second round pick.

Redd and George just signed long term contracts last off season. How are you going to get them? How long did Hudson sign in Minnesota for?

BigMike

I pretty much agree with JoeF on this one.

To stay away from Andre Miller would be a total mistake. It's hard to overlook how good he was in Cleveland, not to mention he would be a god in Salt Lake City.

Kirilenko adding a lot weight isn't a good idea. As JoeF said, quickness is his game. (Well, I wouldn't necessarily say quickness....just overall explosiveness.) Adding a lot of weight will inevitably reduce his explosiveness level a little, even if you do it right, contrary to what some people say.


If we drafted Slay and Korver in this draft, ugh. That would be dissappointing. We need good athletes and big bodies IMO. Ostertag has never been able to cut it. He might be the worst starter in the NBA. Even if Borchardt and Collins get to 100%, we need a backup guy who isn't a liability on the offensive end of the floor like Massenburg and can defend the 4 or the 5.

And that foregin big man comment was pretty dumb...many of them drafted recently are turning into franchise players.


And JoeF, to answer your question, as a Jazz fan I'm getting awfully tired of these 45 win seasons, 1st round playoff exits and 23rd overall draft picks who end up tearing their ACLs and being injured for the whole season. It's nice to see StocktontoMalone be this effective even after all these years, and to see the old team go out and kick the 25 yr old butts occasionally, but I think we all know that we have no chance at competing in the playoffs anymore. Starting the rebuilding process now might be exciting in watching the growth of new players and hopefully seeing them turn into the next dynasty tandem.

freakofnature

All those PFs except Cook are undersized.

freakofnature

I have a feeling the Jazz are going to have lottery picks over the next few years.

JoeF

I am tired of first round exits also. I just don't think the Bulls style rebuild so many people seem to think is so great is the way to go. I hope we are able to rebuild over the next two to three years with free agency and maybe a draft pick or two. If you look at the the past Champions none have done a Chicago style rebuild. In fact I don't think any have even got to the level the Jazz are at now yet.

The Lakers rebuilt by signing Shaq and getting Kobe with a late late lottery pick. They didn't blow up the team, suck for 5-10 years to rebuild. San Antonio had injuries, kept their core players, got lucky and got the #1 pick, Duncan.

The teams that have done the Chicago style rebuild still suck today. Would you want to be like Chicago? They started rebuilding in 1999 and four years later they are still not even competing for the playoffs and only won 30 games in a weaker conference. In the West Chicago might have only won 20 games. In the East the Jazz with their current record would have been a #5 seed. They only would have needed 4 more wins to get the #1 seed. With the weaker schedule that is entirely possible.

freakofnature

Why would the Jazz want to get rid of Ostertag? He's not talented, but he gives 110% every time and has great intensity. He carried them tonight.

freakofnature

As for the draft, I'd say:

Round one: Micheal Peitrus SG (the European Jason Richardson)

Round two: Marvin Stone PF Louisville - big, strong, good player

Slay and Korver would be good players off the bench for Utah.

compsciguy78

Korver sucks. He is too slow to make most NBA teams. He could fit on this team but I wouldnt waste a first round pick on him.

BigMike

Oh, and about 'Tag......

In his entire career in Utah, he's carried the Jazz in one game.


I love effort players...but he is the least talented player in the NBA. I'm willing to bet money on that. He has NO back to the basket moves at all (NONE! I doubt he's ever taken his man one-on-one and scored) and he is a bad finisher. He has some shotblocking ability, but that's pretty much it.


When it comes to ability, Ostertag is terrible.

bjdica

I think you forget the spanish boy Raul Lopez. This guy is going to surprise a lot of people.He´s not going to do a lot of points, but he´s very fast and intelligent.

Sorry about my English.

JoeF

Who would the Ostertag haters replace him with? In terms of NBA centers he is fairly average nowdays.

BigMike

bjdica....your english was perfect...

Genjuro

Stockton is gone. Let's say that Miller is signed at $6 or $7 million. Let's say Malone goes elsewhere looking for his ring. Atlanta is likely in a rebuilding mode. It seems they want to blow up their current team. What about Ostertag (expiring contract) and next year first round pick (could very well be lottery) for Reef?. Utah could add also Stevenson if the Hawks want. Could it be a realistic possibility?.

With Miller and Reef (and without Tag and Stevenson), the Jazz will have another extra $7 or $8 mil. of cap room to spend. What about Stackhouse?. His stock has dropped badly this year. The only problem is that he could prefer not to opt out of his current contract this season and wait to recover his value without Jordan stealing him the spotlight. Maggette could be another possibility, although I think he would prefer Denver or San Antonio. Any idea here?.

And the final question: a team featuring Miller, Stackhouse, Harpring, Rahim, Kirilenko, Collins, Borchardt, fillers and some draftee has any possibility to play the postseason in the West?.

BigMike

That team would definetely have a shot to play in the postseason.