[billfindlay10]

Originally Posted by unluckyseventeen

It's a matter of opinion. With what I saw of Humphries, he had no idea how to run in our offense, he was an OK defender (by OK I mean not terrible), but he shot a similar % to Araujo... the only benefit I would give Humphries is that he is a slightly better rebounder, but they are the same age and have both sucked on an equal level.

Really, I'd say maybe 50% of Hump's points with the Jazz came on open-floor dunks... and anybody can do that. In reality he shot near 40%, he's 6-11, and has very little basketball IQ. Same can be said about Araujo.

*EDIT* Keep it civil, please.

Humphries is no where close to the age of Hoffa, nor is he 6'11".....Try 6'9".
Not anyone can run the floor and dunk the ball....you need to show good hands to catch a pass on the run, decent athletisism, and know how to run a lane. That is more then just throwing out some scrub to throw one down.

Raptor fans do not think that Humpries is a potential allstar, or even an NBA starter, but we do think that he can be a decent 5th big man off the bench.

[¹²³]

IMO Araujo will find some way to contribute in Sloan's system. He is team-oriented and I think the coach will know how to use another big. And returning to Utah is something that will do some good to Hoffa.

[endora60]

Originally Posted by billfindlay10

*EDIT* Keep it civil, please.

Humphries is no where close to the age of Hoffa, nor is he 6'11".....Try 6'9".
Not anyone can run the floor and dunk the ball....you need to show good hands to catch a pass on the run, decent athletisism, and know how to run a lane. That is more then just throwing out some scrub to throw one down.

Raptor fans do not think that Humpries is a potential allstar, or even an NBA starter, but we do think that he can be a decent 5th big man off the bench.

With all due respect, that's what I don't understand: What on Earth has Kris Humphries done or been in Toronto that makes Raps fans--or at least you--believe he's got potential as anything but the second coming of Greg Ostertag, i.e., huge, stupid, and grossly incompetent?

Not being ratty here, I really want to know: What are you seeing in Humphries that nobody in Utah ever has or does?

[unluckyseventeen]

By the way, you actually thought to be uncivil over a comment like that?

Yeah... right. I'm done commenting in this thread if you get butt-hurt over the fact that both players are garbage.

[Darkwing Duck]

After Game 2:

Araujo: 0 pt, 0 reb, 0 pf
Humphries: 4 pt, 1 reb, 1 pf



Damn, we need a blowout or something. Can't let him get too far ahead.

[billfindlay10]

Originally Posted by endora60

With all due respect, that's what I don't understand: What on Earth has Kris Humphries done or been in Toronto that makes Raps fans--or at least you--believe he's got potential as anything but the second coming of Greg Ostertag, i.e., huge, stupid, and grossly incompetent?

Not being ratty here, I really want to know: What are you seeing in Humphries that nobody in Utah ever has or does?

Raptor fans do not think that Humpries is a potential allstar, or even an NBA starter, but we do think that he can be a decent 5th big man off the bench.

Where did I say he will be anything great....a 5th big man in a rotation makes him a 10th or 11th man off the bench.....that is better then a DNPCD, but not much. We (Raps fans) don't think he will be a major part of the team moving to the playoffs, but he will be a hustle guy to throw out for 5-10 minutes a game depending on the flow.

Jazz fans can't see past the fact that he will be a better fit in Toronto then Utah....not a great fit, not a spot starter, not a 6th man, but just a better fit at the end of the bench.

As for UL17, I am not hurt, I am just trying to let you see the situation clearly. You rag on Hump, but it would seem that you realy don't know as much about him as you thought. A 21 year old who has the physical tools can still turn it around and carve out a living as an NBA bench player. That is all we in Toronto think.

[endora60]

All right, fair enough, I guess. As long as he's not in Utah or taking up any bench space here, can't begrudge him whatever small success--like having a job--he may acheive in Toronto. If he works out better as a bench player for y'all than he did for us, more power to him and to the Raps.

Just don't sign him to anything long term

[Chan]

Originally Posted by endora60

Not sure I'd say one bucket and one rebound constitutes blowing somebody out of the water.

Eh, it does in my eyes. Someone on the floor is always a better contributor than a guy sitting on the bench. Is Hoffa even dressed for games?

[unluckyseventeen]

Originally Posted by billfindlay10

UL17, I am not hurt, I am just trying to let you see the situation clearly. You rag on Hump, but it would seem that you realy don't know as much about him as you thought. A 21 year old who has the physical tools can still turn it around and carve out a living as an NBA bench player. That is all we in Toronto think.

That's fine. I've seen him for 2 solid seasons, and he stunk the joint up. I know he has the PHYSICAL tools to be something decent, but there are plenty of atheletes with everything but an NBA mind who can't get off the bench either.

Utah fans have absolutely no bitterness or regret about Humphries. He sucked it up here, that's all that matters. If he does well somewhere else, then I was wrong. Oh well. I just don't want him on my team because he played absolutely TERRIBLE while he was here.

[endora60]

Originally Posted by Chan

Eh, it does in my eyes. Someone on the floor is always a better contributor than a guy sitting on the bench. Is Hoffa even dressed for games?

I don't think so--but if the other guy is and is only making one bucket and one rebound, it's not worth having him dressed for games either.

[Darkwing Duck]

After Game 3:
Both had DNP:CD so no stat change. Damn Fisher. He's the reason Araujo didn't play. Had to go tweak a hammie so Brown was needed.

[unluckyseventeen]

Fisher? I heard it was Williams...

By the way, the reason Brown played during the game was because Fisher and Williams got 2 fouls quickly.

Brown also ran the offense well while he was in.

[Darkwing Duck]

Originally Posted by unluckyseventeen

Fisher? I heard it was Williams...

By the way, the reason Brown played during the game was because Fisher and Williams got 2 fouls quickly.

Brown also ran the offense well while he was in.

At the beginning of the game, FSN showed their Injury Report and it said Fisher had a hammy problem. Thus Dee Brown was activated for the game in case the injury got worse and thus someone had to go IA, hence Araujo not getting into the game.

[unluckyseventeen]

Oh.

....I just won't say anything. This year has been too good so far.