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01-12-2007, 10:45 PM
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The Truth
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
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Fixed it for you.
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It's an opinion, so no fixing needed.
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01-12-2007, 10:48 PM
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The Johns
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
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It's an opinion, so no fixing needed.
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nah, I didn't mean fixing literally.
Just my way of stating my opinion. 
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01-13-2007, 12:29 AM
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Small with Big Stick
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
I like him because he's big and can guard 2 positions. Most people don't understand how much that means to any team. He is just solid all around. Actually he is better then solid all around. Deron is a future all-star no doubt. I would put him top 10 PG right now and would put him in my top 5 if you took out some combo guards like Arenas and Wade.
Nash
Kidd
AI
Arenas
Wade
Deron
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
He still has a way to go. I would definitely put him top 10 for this year.
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Chris Paul this year is not better than any year of J Kidd. Thats just a stupid, ignorant thing to say. I should get Jason Kidd to punch your wife in the face.
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01-13-2007, 01:54 AM
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
the following are not point guards; Arenas, Iverson, Wade. Deron is very close to the top 5
IN no order
Nash
Kidd
Billups
CP
DW
Parker
these players are interchangable but when I actually do think about it maybe Deron is top 5.
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01-13-2007, 02:01 AM
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
Nash
Kidd
Billups
Roy
Paul
Livingston
Parker
Cassel (mayb not now)
then mayb d williams.
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01-13-2007, 03:26 AM
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
I'd add T.J. Ford to the list of PG's that are better then Williams right now. But I love Williams game.
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01-13-2007, 09:04 AM
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BasketballBoards Rookie
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
TJ Ford??? Deron is better statistically AND younger.
TJ Ford
15.7 points
FG% 44.8%
7.8 assists
3.7 rebounds
1.2 steals
3.3 TO's
A/TO = 2.36
Deron Williams
16.7 points
FG% 45.2%
8.7 assists
3.4 rebounds
1.1 steals
2.8 TO's
A/TO = 3.11
And rating Livingston over Deron???? This is what Deron has done against a "great" defender like Livingston....
Over three games against the Clipps and against Livingston Deron has put up
21.7 points
9.3 assists
1 steal pg
shooting 50%
WHILE holding Livingston to BELOW average games.....
NEXT...
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01-13-2007, 09:05 AM
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BasketballBoards Rookie
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
Notice that where TJ is better, he is by .1 and .3
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01-13-2007, 09:08 AM
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
Nash, Kidd, Arenas, AI, Billups...nope no room for him left.
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01-13-2007, 10:55 AM
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
In Order to be a top 5 PG, you actually....
First, have to be a true PG.
Second, lead your team to victories.
How could Arenas play in the Eastern Conference, have Antawn Jamison, Caron Butler, Deshawn Stevenson, and a great supporting cast (Eastern Conference Wise), and not be a #1 Seed.
Washington has one of the best teams in the East (ON Paper), and yet struggle to beat the New Orleans Hornets without Paul, Peja, Jackson, and West.
WTF.
and Iverson = The most overrated player in NBA history, like i stated in another thread.
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01-13-2007, 11:45 AM
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
I don't know if I'll put Deron Williams in the top 5, but after Nash and Kidd, Williams is in that group of top tier PGs. Gilbert Arenas is a PG, at least he plays one on the Washington Wizards. If you take a look at their roster, there isn't another player that is more of a true "PG" than Arenas. Stevenson? Antonio Daniels? The same can be said for AI. Besides Steve Blake, nobody on the Nuggets team can actually be called a PG.
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01-13-2007, 01:08 PM
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
Not yet. I don't expect him to be a top 5 in his second season. He is still learning, but I love the way he executes and takes care of the ball for over 3/1 A/TO Ratio. He is in a shooting slump right now, but he is a good enough shooter to bounce out of it. Thats the only part of his game that is struggling, shooting, but the shooting slump will go, because we all know he can shoot from leading the league in 3 point % at the 2nd half of last season.
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01-13-2007, 01:24 PM
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
Iverson/Arenas/Wade aren't PG's.
The top REAL pg's are:
Nash
Kidd
Billups
B. Davis
Paul
Parker
D. Williams
T.J. Ford
A. Miller
Bibby
Williams is very close to top 5 IMO.
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01-13-2007, 02:14 PM
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Legends Never Die
Join Date: May 2005
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Re: Deron Williams---Top 5 PG
No. You are wrong. There is no room for debate on Brandon Roy being better than Deron Williams. Sorry.
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