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trick · 10-23-2003, 03:31 PM

i feel they should

ltrain99 · 10-23-2003, 03:33 PM

yes, both of them.

**Arclite** · 10-23-2003, 05:51 PM

AK will come off the bench. He'll still get 33-36 mins a game but it'll be off the bench..

**whiterhino** · 10-24-2003, 09:26 AM

They should both start they are the 1st and 3rd best players on the team with Matt being 2nd

**pavlo11** · 10-24-2003, 03:54 PM

I think Ak-47 will come off the bench. The Jazz nedd some scoring threat off the bench. I do think Keon will start

JGKoblenz · 10-24-2003, 04:09 PM

There is no problem if AK comes off the bench or not, the important thing is to give him a good amount of PT.

Petey · 10-24-2003, 07:09 PM

Why won't AK start? I think for a team that may not have as much talent as another should get off to good starts as much as possible to give some confidence.

-Petey

Pistolballer · 10-24-2003, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by <b>Petey</b>!
Why won't AK start? I think for a team that may not have as much talent as another should get off to good starts as much as possible to give some confidence.

-Petey

i agree, ive always went with the method of starting who fits, not by position... as long as you arent too weak inside, and have some decent ballhandlers

**Arclite** · 10-25-2003, 02:15 PM

Neither Kirilenko or Harpring are good ball handlers or passers. Putting one of them at the two guard is putting way too much pressure on 3 completely inexperienced point guards to run the offense. If you have a point who is capable of running the offense himself, like a Payton, Marbury or Kidd - then you don't need your off guard to handle the ball. The Jazz don't have that luxury.

The Jazz are using a motion offense where both the 1 and the 2 handle the ball. Stevenson played back up point a year ago and is a decent ball handler, which is why he will start. You will see AK and Harp on the floor together often, but anyone who thinks they're both going to get 40 mins per game is wrong.

Arroyo is a decent distributor, but a lineup of Arroyo, Kirilenko, Harpring, Clark, and Ostertag is just asking for a stagnant offense. None of those guys are really good at creating shots for themselves, and only one of them is good at getting teammates involved.

Any way you look at it, it's bad to have your best 2 players play the same position... If they are versatile then it's not so bad, but Harp and Kiri are both one-position players.

bballer27 · 10-26-2003, 09:40 AM

ya probably

Petey · 10-26-2003, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by <b>Sovereignz</b>!
Neither Kirilenko or Harpring are good ball handlers or passers. Putting one of them at the two guard is putting way too much pressure on 3 completely inexperienced point guards to run the offense. If you have a point who is capable of running the offense himself, like a Payton, Marbury or Kidd - then you don't need your off guard to handle the ball. The Jazz don't have that luxury.

The Jazz are using a motion offense where both the 1 and the 2 handle the ball. Stevenson played back up point a year ago and is a decent ball handler, which is why he will start. You will see AK and Harp on the floor together often, but anyone who thinks they're both going to get 40 mins per game is wrong.

Arroyo is a decent distributor, but a lineup of Arroyo, Kirilenko, Harpring, Clark, and Ostertag is just asking for a stagnant offense. None of those guys are really good at creating shots for themselves, and only one of them is good at getting teammates involved.

Any way you look at it, it's bad to have your best 2 players play the same position... If they are versatile then it's not so bad, but Harp and Kiri are both one-position players.

If that is the case, I would start AK over Harpring. Won't you build your team around AK over Harpring? And I'm sure they would want their better offensive weapons on the court at alot of times even if AK is a 6th man, so why not start them? That is more so my point.

-Petey

**whiterhino** · 10-28-2003, 07:35 AM

Stevenson is terrible, read his scouting reports, he could be out of the NBA soon if he doesn't get a clue. They will end up starting AK & Harp by the 2nd week of the season. They are not going to have a choice, unless Pavlovic their impressing rookie Shooting Guard plays out of his mind.

**TomBoerwinkle#1** · 10-29-2003, 02:31 PM

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Replacing the other legend presents a tougher choice for Sloan, or at least a greater range of options. The coach insisted Tuesday that he still had not decided who will break Malone's streak of 17 straight Opening Night starts at power forward. If he wants quickness, he could choose Kirilenko. If he wants size, Jarron Collins is the likeliest candidate, since Keon Clark's ankle is still sore.

Kirilenko's role, not to mention his position, could change game by game. Sloan said he intends to use the third-year forward at either forward position, and even occasionally at guard. "We want him to get into a comfort zone. So what is that comfort zone?" Sloan said. "Sometimes at [small forward] he's matched up against the same [amount of] quickness, so he's nullified. So where can we get him an advantage?"

http://www2.sltrib.com/jazz/main/index.asp

Looks to me like the frontcourt rotation is still up in the air.

**Arclite** · 10-29-2003, 03:46 PM

I just read an article in the local paper where Kirilenko might get a block of minute at the PF spot.. yiiiikes...

**walkon4** · 11-02-2003, 05:42 PM

Why wouldnt you want Kirilenko to start?

Andrei is a solid player, and is only getting better and better. He is incredibly talented on both ends of the floor, and is a great player for fantasy. He needs to be the number 2 target behind Harp.

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