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Old 05-04-2004, 08:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Trade idea

I don't make a habit of coming up with these, but I was thinking about the possiblity of Shareef Abdur-Rahim coming to Utah. I think he'd be a good fit, and we could do with a genuine PF. We could spare Matt Harpring, which would in turn allow Ak to move to his more natural SF slot. We can also spare a PG, and as the Blazers only have an aging Stoudamire, they might be interested.

Looking at the salaries, we would need to do a sign & trade with Arroyo (his FA status is unclear) or throw in some fillers (Borchardt, or a re-signed Ostertag??). Harpring's salary is only 4.5mill, whereas Reef's is 14.6

Utah Trades:
Matt Harpring SF/SG
Carlos Arroyo PG
Greg Ostertag C

Utah Receives:
Shareef Abdur-Rahim PF

What do you reckon?

Is Reef worth going for? What would we need/be willing to give up?
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Old 05-04-2004, 12:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thats giving up way to much for Reef. the guy is a cancer, everywhere he goes the team turns to ****. if I was KOC I might be winning to give up one of this years first rounders, and maybe a second rounder down the road for him- but not much more.

the Jazz have AK, and can probibly find someone in the draft that will be just as good as reeferman.
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Old 05-04-2004, 04:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Actually, I'd like that trade.

It definetely fills a need that we have at PF.

And I don't think that's giving up too much because Ostertag doesn't count, Harpring leaving doesn't hurt too much because of AK, and I like Mo Williams better than Arroyo.
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Old 05-04-2004, 07:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't know if I like this trade. I love Rahim. I don't think he is a cancer. He just isn't a guy that knocks off my socks enough to give up someone like Harpring. This will be an interesting offseason, not one that the jazz will do too much gambling. I think the jazz can work out a deal that wouldn't have to give up Matt. The jazz can take his contract.
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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man i would keep arroyo he is gonna be solid
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'd be very interested to see what Sloan could do to Shareef Abdur-Rahim...
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He would be interesting under Sloan, but IMO not worth giving up Lopez/Arroyo and how they try so hard because they want to start.
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I'd love to do it - but Portland wouldn't.

They're either going to try to trade Z-Bo or Rahim for a two guard. Portland (fans and FO) loves Darius Miles, and Ruben Patterson is a great guy to have off the bench.. I can't see them taking the offer. Who knows though.
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I'd love to do it - but Portland wouldn't.

They're either going to try to trade Z-Bo or Rahim for a two guard. Portland (fans and FO) loves Darius Miles, and Ruben Patterson is a great guy to have off the bench.. I can't see them taking the offer. Who knows though.
Harpring can play the 2 though, can't he?
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Harpring can play the 2 though, can't he?
Playing Harp at the two was a big stretch before the injury.. after it, I don't really see him having the lateral quickness to stick with any of the quick shooting guards.. who knows though.
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Playing Harp at the two was a big stretch before the injury.. after it, I don't really see him having the lateral quickness to stick with any of the quick shooting guards.. who knows though.
His latteral quickness has really been so much lessened? Because , if I had to choose between a healthy Harping and Abdul-Rahim , I would go for Harping. Needless to say that I would never trade Harping AND Carlos Arroyo for Rahim. Both of these players are more or less underrated , but remain very competitive. They have had to prove that they belonged to the league every single minute they spent on the field .
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