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Old 11-05-2002, 10:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Obviously, it was way too soon for people to claim he was a bust. He's too young.
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I want to see Kwame Brown do it in the regular season before I EAT MY WORDS!
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Exactly this is preseason I don't care if he is dropping a 50 pts a game he needs to do this in the regular season.
Yeah believe it now!!!

"Do it in the regular season, well he is doing so, and you Kwame hatters shut up real fast now didn't ya! "Kwame Brown is a bust"? Good god, get a freaking clue, I could not even count on two hands how many people in here said MJ is a dumb GM and should have not drafted Kwame. That is just a pathetic showing a basketball knowledge, Kwame a bust

I know you won't post anything in response, just saying, do it in the regular season, well what is next, do it all season long. Well averaging 12 points 12 rebounds a game, I think he can keep that up!

P.S. Same thing goes with Johnathan Bender, he is doing great averaging 10 points 7 rebounds a game, and has a great short jump shot, and obviously has the athletic ability...
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Old 11-05-2002, 12:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i bashed the pick,still do.i thought brown was a good prospect but i still would have taken,curry,chandler and certainly gasol.brown is playing pretty well because he has the experiance under his belt and he is playing hard.he made a curious comment the other day.something to the effect that ,last year he would have taken the scond night off on a back to back.that kind of scares me a little.i still would take those 3 i mentioned.actually the wiz could have traded down in that draft.they like vlade radmonovic,who i think is the next peja stojackovic,and got another top player.isnt hindisght great?
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Old 11-05-2002, 12:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I bashed him, labeled him as a bust, and posted how Washington Management will regret the drafting of Kwame Brown.. and Kwame has proved me wrong, big time. I would take Kwame over Curry or Chandler (I won't have to eat my words after that one).

He still has competition with Gasol for the best big man in that draft class, but Kwame has definately made me eat crow and he looks like he's going to be a star for the Wizards.
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Old 11-05-2002, 12:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i bashed the pick,still do.i thought brown was a good prospect but i still would have taken,curry,chandler and certainly gasol.brown is playing pretty well because he has the experiance under his belt and he is playing hard.he made a curious comment the other day.something to the effect that ,last year he would have taken the scond night off on a back to back.that kind of scares me a little.i still would take those 3 i mentioned.actually the wiz could have traded down in that draft.they like vlade radmonovic,who i think is the next peja stojackovic,and got another top player.isnt hindisght great?
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Old 11-05-2002, 12:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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After three games let's put him in the HOF now....


But I see your point
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Old 11-05-2002, 12:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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After three games let's put him in the HOF now....


But I see your point
You are a Kwame basher of the worst kind. You rode him all last year, and you are waiting for any opportunity to turn on him again. You don't fool me doggpound. You also better not try and backtrack like your buddy.

Kwame is going to have some off games this year, and I expect tonight to be one of them. However people that have seen him play now know what MJ saw, and even if he has a little slump, I think over the course of the preseason and now, some flashes were shown to justify his selection.
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Old 11-05-2002, 12:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The same people who bashed Kwame are going to eat their words as well as the people who say Yao Ming will be a bust will eat their words, just on BBall knowledge you have to allow time for developement labeling a highschool kid after 1 year a bust is stupid same with Ming, Chandler and Curry are both going to be fine ball players but they just aren't on Kwame's level physically, Curry's big with slow feet and a lack or rebounding understanding he has good offensive moves but because of his lack of athleticism he struggles covering people, Chandler is a great athlete with a frail frame it'll take him three years more to develope an NBA big mans body, he has no ball handling skills to create any offense and his jumper is a little balky, but he's a natural shot blocker very intense defensively attacks the boards hard but physically he needs some maturing or he'll get pushed around, Kwame has the body type you're looking for 6-11 250 with 4% body fat thats an explosive athletic body type, he has a nice jumper he has some post moves while still limited and the quickest 1st step I've seen on a man that big in a long time, great timing and a calm steady demeaner which should allow him to give consistent performances. Gasol is ahead of Kwame because of his knowledge of the game playing pro ball already but give it 3 years and Brown , Chandler and Curry may be on or past that level, I'm certain kwame will, he's closing that gap already.

When Yao starts doing his thing everbody who talked the talk will regret it also same things were being said about Kenyon Martin before he started to tear people up.
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Old 11-05-2002, 01:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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@BCH

You know my views on Kwame, but I'll state them here for the record. Yes, I bashed him last year, and felt he was a bad pick (not that the others would have been better, didn't really like anyone rated high enough to warrant a #1).

He has proven me wrong so far this year, but it's still even too early to say he's proven all of the doubters wrong.

He has played three games this year. I'm not saying he's going to suddenly flop on his face because from what I've seen from him this year, he looks very very good, and the sky looks like the limit for him.

But you can't "prove doubters" wrong based on three NBA games. I'm sorry, but you just can't. He's shown what he's capable of, but he just needs to keep trying to get better, and improve every game.

He's set the bar pretty high for himself from those three games though.
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My response to that is that the doubters are always going to have ammunition then especially when they try and judge the guy when he was a #1 pick from high school in his first season.

If they have the right to make the judgement at that point in time, then his defenders have just as much right to beat his drum.

I am in the middle right now, not ready to say he is the next coming of anything, but I am at least acknowledging that the potential that made him the number 1 pick is evident.
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Old 11-05-2002, 01:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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@BCH I can also now see why MJ took him #1. I will have zero problem admitting I was wrong by saying it was a bad pick when the time comes.
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Old 11-05-2002, 02:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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im not A Kawmae basher, hes preatty cool
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Old 11-05-2002, 02:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I said the second quote !
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I always liked the Kwame pick. I read an article last year from the Washington Post about how he was having trouble adjusting to life on his own and didn't really know what it took to truely dedicate himself to the game. Obviously he's got the talent, he just wasn't mentally ready. Of all people, MJ has to be the best guy to teach him the mental side of the game, and it's showing now.
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Old 11-06-2002, 07:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
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When will people learn that it might take time for a 18 year old to learn the game of pro basketball...

Kwame a bust, talk about a dumb statement. Like everyone has said that are on my side, Kwame is a athletic freak. He can run faster than any center in the NBA, he is cat quick, has really long arms, very agile, and can grab a ton of rebounds with his great jumping ability. And the fact that he has MJ to learn from just makes him that much better.

Who every said he was a bust, you are W-R-O-N-G, WRONG. Simple as that, what he is just doing good because, ummm. Yeah he won't keep it up, it is just a fluke
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