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twinz2gether · 07-05-2004, 11:36 AM

I'm starting to get sick of having to predict Kwame's stats every year, not knowing when he is going to become a 20 10 player (if he ever does).

Predictions?

I'm giving a generous prediction of 16 ppg 9 rpg 3 apg 1.5 bpg

I think he'll continue doing what he did near the end of the year, excpet with more consistency. I know with the addition of Jamison it might be hard for him to get enough touches. But if Hughes reduces his shots (something we are all hoping for), Arenas turns some of those TO's into more assists (very possible) and Jamison is as efficient as he was last year (53% FG i think) then there has to be some room for Kwame to put up around 15 points a game.

The problem with my prediction is that we are going to have to score around 100 points every game if he is going to fulfill this prediction.

jazzy1 · 07-05-2004, 12:05 PM

I'm predicting a 15 and 10 season that could very easily be a 20 and 10 season but won't be.

If his jumper comes around this summer he's gonna be hell to deal with on the low block. Jamison I think is gonna help him. Jamison tends to collapse the middle of defenses which should allow Kwame to get offensive rebounds and plenty of step back jumpers out to 15 feet. And finishes from passes for lay-ups and dunks.

Hell get alot more garbage buckets because of where Jamison will be shooting the ball closer to the basket. Its hard to offensive rebound when most of the shots are flying in from the perimter like they were last season.

Plus Jamison will feed him on the low block.

If all of this works with Jamison the Wizards players will get recognition next season including Kwame.

I thought Eddie Jordan caused Kwame to start slow last season. He rarely ever called a play for Kwame really early in the season. It was December before Kwame started to come on and he played consistently from December till about late Feb than Arenas and Hughes just started taking all the shots and Kwame became inconsistent again.

I'd like to see Kwame work on his jumper and ball handiling. Guys like KG, Amare, JO they can use the dribble to create space. Kwame's handle is really weak and if he strengthened it he could get people in foul trouble even more.

Kwame's is pretty good at drawing fouls something you gotta love outta a big man.

He needs to stop resting on defense and block shots also.

Shanghai Kid · 07-05-2004, 12:37 PM

15 and 10 sounds about right. With Jamsion and Arenas probably both putting up around 20ppg, Kwame will be a hell of a 3rd option.

**CP26** · 07-05-2004, 03:06 PM

17 ppg and 10 rpg

twinz2gether · 07-05-2004, 04:04 PM

15 and 9 is good i think

**afireinside** · 07-05-2004, 09:15 PM

16 ppg, 11 rpg, 2 apg, 1.5 bpg.

WXHOOPS · 07-05-2004, 09:25 PM

Wiz should deal Hughes for a solid role player. One who is defensive minded, tough, and a good leader. With all that youth, a wiley vet would be appreciated.

Kwame: 15pts 10reb 2ast 1.5blk

**MJG** · 07-05-2004, 09:31 PM

Seems the general idea is 15-16 PPG and 9-10 RPG. My early pick was 15/9.5, which slides right into what everyone else is saying.

I'm with jazzy in that I think in a different situation, he could most certainly up up something closer to 20 PPG. On a team like ours though, with two gunners in Hughes an Arenas as well as a scorer in Jamison (he isn't a gunner in my opinion, but he'll still get a fair number of shots to get his 18 PPG), it's just too tough for Kwame to really have the type of scoring average he could on another team.

Shanghai Kid · 07-05-2004, 09:57 PM

Well cry me a river for Kwame, but if he could just get hustle points off of putbacks, fastbreak points, and other things besides getting the ball in the post, than he could get his 20 and 10 on this team.

jazzy1 · 07-06-2004, 02:14 AM

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Originally posted by Shanghai Kid!
Well cry me a river for Kwame, but if he could just get hustle points off of putbacks, fastbreak points, and other things besides getting the ball in the post, than he could get his 20 and 10 on this team.

Not likely to happen, Detroit had the 2 Wallace boys who put up no where near 20 on a team with two other perimeter scorers.

No big man in the league can hustle his way into 20 and 10 without getting the ball some.

**kamego** · 07-08-2004, 11:43 AM

I'm a piston fan and we go through similar things with Darko. Big guys with potential and whats going to happen with them. I am big fan of Kwame's. I don't see how he can't be in the starting lineup because he is the future of the team right now. He should be playing as much of the game as physically possible to expand his game as much as he can.

Knicksbiggestfan · 07-08-2004, 06:41 PM

12 and 8.

I would have said higher but now that Jamison is here it's not going to happen IMO unless brown has a serious attitude adjustment.

I used to predict big things from Brown, but now I just think that he has serious mental issues a la KVH. A talented player who just can't seem to put it together.

If I have Jamison, Thomas, and Haywood crashing the boards and competeting for touches and spots, I honestly can't see Kwame getting his.

Especially with Hughes and Arenas as the guards.

jazzy1 · 07-08-2004, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Knicksbiggestfan!
12 and 8.

I would have said higher but now that Jamison is here it's not going to happen IMO unless brown has a serious attitude adjustment.

I used to predict big things from Brown, but now I just think that he has serious mental issues a la KVH. A talented player who just can't seem to put it together.

If I have Jamison, Thomas, and Haywood crashing the boards and competeting for touches and spots, I honestly can't see Kwame getting his.

Especially with Hughes and Arenas as the guards.

You do realize kwame had more rebounds than Thomas, Haywood and Jamison last season.

Kwame's gonna get his touches. I wouldn't say he has a mental problem like KVH. KVH is a tweener without the size and strength to play 4 nor the real quicks to play 3.

Kwame is a solid 4/5 he can play either well. He's strong enough and big enough. He just needs the ball which he'll get next season. Eddie Jordan will make sure Kwame's involved in the game plan.

Kwame is nothing Like KVH. KVH is as good as he's supposed to be, people just have unreal expectation for what I have no idea. He's not that talented physically thats all. He's not a low post horse. Kwame can be.

Knicksbiggestfan · 07-09-2004, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by jazzy1!

You do realize kwame had more rebounds than Thomas, Haywood and Jamison last season.

Not per 48. Not even close. Kwame averaged ~10 more minutes than those guys, and per 48 came up very short.

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Kwame's gonna get his touches. I wouldn't say he has a mental problem like KVH. KVH is a tweener without the size and strength to play 4 nor the real quicks to play 3.

Actually KVH does the have quickness to play the three but due to his outside game and ball handling teams constantly want him to play the 4. His first two season in Jersey were probably the only time he got consistent position at the 3 and he performed quite well.

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Kwame is a solid 4/5 he can play either well. He's strong enough and big enough. He just needs the ball which he'll get next season. Eddie Jordan will make sure Kwame's involved in the game plan.

Jamison is going to change a lot of this.

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Kwame is nothing Like KVH. KVH is as good as he's supposed to be, people just have unreal expectation for what I have no idea. He's not that talented physically thats all. He's not a low post horse. Kwame can be.

He is an all around player, and what's expected of him is to fit into the " flow " of the game, because he has so much skill. Rather he tries to play his style of game no matter what is going and he is more often than out of position.

But I wasn't speaking of any of this.

I was speaking of a mental block that they both suffer from. Very talented individuals who don't seem to put it together.

I don't think you understood my post at all.

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