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twinz2gether · 07-27-2004, 09:43 PM

u know, we got antawn jamison, but thats really it, and im really not sure if this guy is even an improvement to our team, our big improvement was getting rid of stack, lol.

but i mean were a young team and we did the right thing, we just have to wait on them and im really feeling like this year will be the year. but i also hope next season we can nab some guys who can play without the ball.

HoopsAvenue05 · 07-28-2004, 07:19 AM

I think we are a lot different next year actually. Most of the personnel is the same, but we traded veterans (Stack/Laettner) in for a fast, young team. We've got a lot of young guys growing up together and those type of teams that stick together can be scary. A big thing is Arenas will feel like the team leader next season with Stack gone so I expect him to play with more maturity. I think Kwame probably feels like a veteran now, too, and he's going to step up.

jazzy1 · 07-28-2004, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by twinz2gether!
u know, we got antawn jamison, but thats really it, and im really not sure if this guy is even an improvement to our team, our big improvement was getting rid of stack, lol.

but i mean were a young team and we did the right thing, we just have to wait on them and im really feeling like this year will be the year. but i also hope next season we can nab some guys who can play without the ball.

Man we've added the 6th man of the year to our team a true sf a 20ppg scorer what more do you want. We have size at the 3 now.

We have other good young players.

If we stay healthy we'll make the playoffs and have a good seed in doing so.

We have a much better team on the floor and in the lockeroom.

Good things ahead

twinz2gether · 07-28-2004, 03:40 PM

Lol really not much to talk about right now, i hate offseason.

dominikan_balla1 · 08-07-2004, 09:10 PM

the wizards will not make the playoffs next year (i promise)
...specially gettin a cancer player in antawn jamison

Shanghai Kid · 08-07-2004, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by dominikan_balla1!
the wizards will not make the playoffs next year (i promise)
...specially gettin a cancer player in antawn jamison

Since when did Jamison become a cancer? He was brought in because he is a positive locker room influence.

**afireinside** · 08-07-2004, 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by dominikan_balla1!
the wizards will not make the playoffs next year (i promise)
...specially gettin a cancer player in antawn jamison

Usually 6th Men of the Year are good players and aren't a cancer. Just usually tough..

**CP26** · 08-08-2004, 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by dominikan_balla1!
the wizards will not make the playoffs next year (i promise)
...specially gettin a cancer player in antawn jamison

Do you even know anything about basketball?

hobojoe · 08-22-2004, 06:03 PM

Personally, I have less hope this season for the Wizards than I did last year. Last offseason, I thought the Wizards were looking solid, and were primed to make a run at the postseason in the East. Obviously that didn't happen, and I personally don't believe Washington got that much better, if at all. I know I'm in the minority because most like the Jamison trade, but I don't think he's the kind of guy that'll be a big difference maker on this team, especially not for the price of Stackhouse, Laettner AND a Top 5 pick.

jazzy1 · 08-22-2004, 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by hobojoe!
Personally, I have less hope this season for the Wizards than I did last year. Last offseason, I thought the Wizards were looking solid, and were primed to make a run at the postseason in the East. Obviously that didn't happen, and I personally don't believe Washington got that much better, if at all. I know I'm in the minority because most like the Jamison trade, but I don't think he's the kind of guy that'll be a big difference maker on this team, especially not for the price of Stackhouse, Laettner AND a Top 5 pick.

Come on man think about what you're saying. What was Stack gonna give us. He was an undersized sf with a bad knee. Laetner was giving us NOTHING and the 5th pick was adding another young player to an already young team.

Jamison isn't a savior we don't need him to be we're gonna be pretty good anyway but he adds scoring ,a good lockeroom guy and size at the sf spot.

You must simply don't like the Wizards to say we're not much better. PLus Kwame's a year more experienced after having a good year last season.

With the teams in the East falling off some I think we're primed to be very good this season if we stay healthy.

There are few teams in the East with our size and skill on the perimeter.

We're gonna be a top 5 team in the East this season you watch and see.

hobojoe · 08-23-2004, 05:53 AM

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Originally posted by jazzy1!

Come on man think about what you're saying. What was Stack gonna give us. He was an undersized sf with a bad knee. Laetner was giving us NOTHING and the 5th pick was adding another young player to an already young team.

Jamison isn't a savior we don't need him to be we're gonna be pretty good anyway but he adds scoring ,a good lockeroom guy and size at the sf spot.

Jamison is an overpaid guy on a long term contract. by trading for him and giving away Laettner's expiring deal, the ability of Washington to resign their key players in the future goes down. Not to mention that Jamison is not that great to begin with, although he's a nice 2nd or 3rd option to a superstar. Still, why give up cap room and a Top 5 pick for him, his max contract and cancerous reputation?

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You must simply don't like the Wizards to say we're not much better. PLus Kwame's a year more experienced after having a good year last season.

Not true. I like the Wizards, I just don't think they've gotten better. Like I said, I know I'm in the minority because I strongly dislike the Jamison trade, but I think you're being thickheaded if you can't possibly fathom someone not thinking the Wizards are better.

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With the teams in the East falling off some I think we're primed to be very good this season if we stay healthy.

Who fell off besides New Jersey? Several of the teams at the level of Washington got better too.

jazzy1 · 08-23-2004, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by hobojoe!

Jamison is an overpaid guy on a long term contract. by trading for him and giving away Laettner's expiring deal, the ability of Washington to resign their key players in the future goes down. Not to mention that Jamison is not that great to begin with, although he's a nice 2nd or 3rd option to a superstar. Still, why give up cap room and a Top 5 pick for him, his max contract and cancerous reputation?

Not true. I like the Wizards, I just don't think they've gotten better. Like I said, I know I'm in the minority because I strongly dislike the Jamison trade, but I think you're being thickheaded if you can't possibly fathom someone not thinking the Wizards are better.

Who fell off besides New Jersey? Several of the teams at the level of Washington got better too.

Cancerous reputation you must know something that an actual NBA GM doesn't know in Ernie G. Don Nelson the man's coach last season talked about Jamison GREAT ATITUDE last season so what are you saying.

Again let me give you an update, just in case you didn't know Stack and Laetner were cancers HERE last season. With the money owed Stack and the 5th picks contract the money difference isn't that steep a difference to Jamison's contract.

Now the 5th pick wouldn't help us one aiota next season.

Not one.

He'd be young and sitting behind another young player is all.

Now don't tell me the Nets haven't slipped , the Hornets going West and the Bobcats coming in haven't changed things. The Bucks losing their big in Skinner who was a big help there last season doesn't change things. I think the Cavs are slipping losing Boozer also.

Celtics have gotten younger which hurts them . Sure some teams have obviously improved like the Heat, but I think with the Wizards improvement we have moved past some teams.

The Bulls I think are stuck where they are.

We just gpt the 6th man of the year not a made up award but an award given by people that know and you say we haven't improved.

Just your opinion so I respect it but your rationale for it to me is questionable.

I think you're under the wrong impression as if Jamison is coming here to be our centerpiece and you'd be wrong he comes here just to help not be some sort of franchise player.

I think the Wizards know better than that.

As a contributing factor he proved he can help a winning team and I see no reason why we can't win here.

Last season was an abberatioon with the Wizards because we had injuries to every major player we have.

So the record was bad based on injuries not just bad play.

We were forced to play very inexperienced players big minutes when they should have been sitting back learning the pro game.

But those minutes last season will help us this season.

We are better based on the maturation process but we've added what wins in this league which is vet players in Peeler and Jamison plus we added a steal in Ramos.

Who I think will be a contributor next season.

Shanghai Kid · 08-23-2004, 01:24 PM

Jazzy, don't bother, I have already argued with Hobojoe on the general board for pgs and pgs. Look at his sig, if he doesn't hate the Wiz, he sure loves mocking Wiz fans.

The bottom line is, their aren't many players in the league that would of improved our offense more than Jamison will. The reason is, on offense, we needed a high percentage SF more than anything else. Defensively, we can't be any worse than last season. We gave up like 30 points to every average or above average SF.

hobojoe · 08-23-2004, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Shanghai Kid!
Jazzy, don't bother, I have already argued with Hobojoe on the general board for pgs and pgs. Look at his sig, if he doesn't hate the Wiz, he sure loves mocking Wiz fans.

I don't hate the Wiz, nor do I enjoy mocking Wiz fans. Many of you seem to believe the Wizards will be a playoff team, and I just don't think so. What's wrong with a little bet kinda thing? If I'm wrong, I'll look just as stupid if not stupider than you for having it in my sig, and don't think I'm taking it down, because I promise you I won't until the season is completely over.

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The bottom line is, their aren't many players in the league that would of improved our offense more than Jamison will. The reason is, on offense, we needed a high percentage SF more than anything else. Defensively, we can't be any worse than last season. We gave up like 30 points to every average or above average SF.

Offense is not the problem with the Wizards. There is only one ball, having all these very good offensive players isn't going to make up for the fact that they can't play defense. The Wizards are going to score their points this year, there's no question about that, but they'll probably be near the bottom in defense as well. Right now, I think they're a poor man's version of the Mavs the past few seasons. Notice I say poor, because they're not as good offensively, they don't have one player individually as good as Dirk Nowitzki offensively, and at PG the Mavs had a leader and a I guy who was smart with the ball in Steve Nash. In Washington, that's not the case, Arenas is not smart with the ball at all, and is more of a score first PG or a combo guard. Defensively, I think they're as bad, or even worse than the Mavs have been the past few years. I don't think this is going to translate into many victories this year, despite playing in the East vs. the Mavs playing in the West. I still think they're at least a year away. I think if they had just not made that trade for Jamison, they'd be looking much better for the present and future. They'd be in better shape financially to resign their core players, as well as talent-wise with a guy like Luol Deng or Andre Iguodala thrown into the mix.

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