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Shanghai Kid · 10-04-2004, 09:38 PM

Can we get through the first month without Kwame and Blake with a decent record?

RP McMurphy · 10-04-2004, 09:43 PM

Probably not, but you are in the East, so having a bad record after a month doesn't mean the season is over.

Last year the Heat started out 0-7 and ended up the fourth seed.

jazzy1 · 10-04-2004, 09:44 PM

Well Not alot of confidence in the team right now.

Jamison playing the 4 is not a winning proposition.

Will put more stress on the offense because players will feel the need to outscore teams without Kwame's man defense at the 4.

Without Blake a natural pg the ball won't be shared all that much.

Well Ernie G says that maybe the Doc's are overestimating the time kwame will be out. Hopefully thats the case and in 10 days Kwame can get back out there.

But we have the worst medical people in the league. Abe is probably getting some sort of deal on the medical thats why our med team is so terrible.

This kinda crap has been happening for years.

I think if its mid November the Wizards will be fine.

If its mid December there's real trouble.

Shanghai Kid · 10-04-2004, 09:47 PM

I don't think Jamison is bad at the 4, it's just that whoever we put at the 3 is going to make us such a bad defensive team.

Arenas
Hughes
Hayes
Jamison
Haywood

More than ever, they're going to have run teams out of the building just to have a chance.

Jazzy's worst fear, we're going to have to rely on the Golden State trio to get us through. They have to carry the offense until Kwame/Blake get healthy.

We actually have a fairly light opening schedule. If we can win 5 games in the first month we'll be in decent shape.

jazzy1 · 10-04-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by Shanghai Kid!
I don't think Jamison is bad at the 4, it's just that whoever we put at the 3 is going to make us such a bad defensive team.

Arenas
Hughes
Hayes
Jamison
Haywood

More than ever, they're going to have run teams out of the building just to have a chance.

Jazzy's worst fear, we're going to have to rely on the Golden State trio to get us through. They have to carry the offense until Kwame/Blake get healthy.

We actually have a fairly light opening schedule. If we can win 5 games in the first month we'll be in decent shape.

Jamison at the 4 is terrible defensively. His man defense is some of the worst in the league. He has little strength, has no shot blocking ability he just doesn't care defensively and with the ohysicality it takes to play the 4 we're in trouble there.

Offensivley he'll be fine at 4 he's quicker than most and can get the flip shot off easily.

But lets say we go Etan at starting 4 more trouble laterally Etan is stuck in the mud and he's fumble hands in the post.

Hayes at the 3 another defensive liability. His best postion in the NBA is the 2 where he can hang strength wise. At 3 he's too weak.

Expect lots of turnovers, lots of points , lots of grumbling and lots of substitutions.

f22egl · 10-04-2004, 10:38 PM

If the Wizards start Jamison at 4, I wouldn't be surprised if Jeffries starts as well. Maybe offensively Jamison can be the low post option while Jeffries could start at the 3 but play defense as a 4.

Would that be a viable option?

BullsMVP05 · 10-04-2004, 10:44 PM

their lineup should be like this

c- Haywood
pf- Thomas
sf- jamison
sg- hughes or Hayes
pg- Arenas

f22egl · 10-04-2004, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by BullsMVP05!
their lineup should be like this

c- Haywood
pf- Thomas
sf- jamison
sg- hughes or Hayes
pg- Arenas

If thomas and haywood both get in foul trouble, it won't be pretty.

Shanghai Kid · 10-05-2004, 07:49 AM

Jeffries starting might not be a bad idea.

Jeffries is also a tweener, but he started some games at PF last year and was putting up some doule digit rebounding. He can play on the perimeter a little bit and allow Jamison to roam the paint.

Arenas
Hughes
Jeffries
Jamison
Haywood

That might not be bad. Jeffries isn't a bad defender, he plays good team defense.

bdiggi12 · 10-05-2004, 12:51 PM

Jerffries sucks, Id much rather have Thomas at the PF and keep Jamison at the 3 or have Jamison at 4 and Hayes at 3. We picked up some veteran big men this summer that could fill the role if Etan and Haywood get into foul trouble. We would have no low post offensive presense though either way.

**MJG** · 10-05-2004, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by bdiggi12!
Jerffries sucks, Id much rather have Thomas at the PF and keep Jamison at the 3 or have Jamison at 4 and Hayes at 3. We picked up some veteran big men this summer that could fill the role if Etan and Haywood get into foul trouble. We would have no low post offensive presense though either way.

Etan starting gives us zero depth at the power positions. Unless Ramos is ready to give 20+ minutes a night from day one, we can't let Etan get a majority of his minutes at PF instead of center. Etan at PF might very well be the best starting line we can put forward, but it isn't the smartest idea in my opinion.

I'm all for giving Jeffries a shot, at least for a game or two. He sucked badly last year, but supposedly spent the summer working on his game. Last summer he said he had to spend the entire time recovering, so he came into the season without having done anything to improve basketball-wise. If you look at his April numbers from last year -- 7.6 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 48.8% FG, 31.6 MPG -- you can at least gather a little hope that he'll be able to do something decent for us. If he proves to be unworthy of starter's minutes after a couple games, it'll be easy enough to swap him out.

I'd bet on Hayes getting the starting nod though. He has experience starting and getting starter's minutes, and he slides into the starting SF spot with no real risk, whether that be with depth (Etan) or knowing the quality of play you'll be getting (Jeffries). It may further the "not enough balls on the court" problem, what with him being another scorer, but despite that I'd bet on him being a starter on opening night.

Shanghai Kid · 10-05-2004, 01:52 PM

I just think with Hayes starting we would lose defense and rebounding. With Jeffries, we wouldn't lose much from rebounding, and Jeffries thinks defense first and offense second I believe.

**MJG** · 10-05-2004, 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by Shanghai Kid!
I just think with Hayes starting we would lose defense and rebounding. With Jeffries, we wouldn't lose much from rebounding, and Jeffries thinks defense first and offense second I believe.

Oh Hayes isn't my suggestion; he's just who I think will actually get the job.

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