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Old 11-10-2004, 06:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You, know, I kind of figured that it was because of something like that. But you're right, "redskins" is just a racist term and seriously needs to be changed. That's like naming the team the Washington ******s or something. No one would stand for that, and no one should stand for Redskins.

As for the Bullets, I think it's quite a stretch to say it's inappropriate, but obviously that's the owner's decision.

edit: Obviously the word I used above got censored. Just so you don't miss the point, it was the racist word for an african-american.
Honestly, I agree. When you sit and really think about the term "Redskins," how is that not offensive? Would Brownskins or Yellowskins fly? I don't think so, not for a second. It doesn't offend me simply because I really don't get offended, but still when I really think hard about it, it is amazing that such a thing is allowed.
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Old 11-10-2004, 07:06 PM   #17 (permalink)
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yeah seriously. when I hear the team Warriors I just want to go out and shoot with bows and arrows like an indian.. but that's just me.
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Old 11-11-2004, 09:11 AM   #18 (permalink)
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ya, you all realize the skins are named to honor one of the first redskin coaches who was an american indian right?

used to be the Boston Braves, then when they moved to DC they changed name or something like that.
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Old 11-11-2004, 09:18 AM   #19 (permalink)
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...&notFound=true

"The official story, says team spokesman Karl Swanson, is that when the Boston Braves football team left Braves Field to play at Fenway Park in 1933, owner George Preston Marshall needed a new name for his squad.

The genesis may always remain murky because Marshall never wrote a word about his choice, the Boston newspapers from the time are silent on the question (football was a minor sideshow in those days), and survivors of the period offer conflicting and vague recollections. But it is clear that the Boston Redskins, who moved to Washington in 1937, sought to capitalize on their Indian players and coach: The team played wearing red war paint. And Indian players from the time considered the name and trappings an honor.


He chose Redskins in honor of Lone Star Dietz, the team's coach and an Indian who often wore an eagle feather headdress, beaded deerskin jacket and buckskin moccasins. Dietz brought four to six -- accounts vary -- Indian players with him to Boston from the Haskell Indian School in Kansas, where he had coached for four years. "

" So does Walter Wetzel, former chairman of the Blackfoot tribe and president of the National Congress of American Indians in the 1960s. By the early '60s, the Redskins had dropped any reference to Indians in their logo, uniforms and merchandise. Wetzel went to the Redskins office with photos of Indians in full headdress.

"I said, 'I'd like to see an Indian on your helmets,' " which then sported a big "R" as the team logo, remembers Wetzel, now 86 and retired in Montana. Within weeks, the Redskins had a new logo, a composite Indian taken from the features in Wetzel's pictures. "It made us all so proud to have an Indian on a big-time team. . . . It's only a small group of radicals who oppose those names. Indians are proud of Indians." "
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Old 11-11-2004, 09:28 AM   #20 (permalink)
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also found an anti-redskin article...I dunno, honestly my personal association with the name is respect for our country's heritage and the people who this land belongs to. I dont mind the name, but if there is a majority of indians who wanna change names, then ill be the first to change it. whatever happens, we cant be offending people, cuz i wont stand for that.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...&notFound=true


"But, alas, the very notion of changing the name because American Indians want respect on their own terms is beyond comprehension for many."
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Old 11-11-2004, 09:53 AM   #21 (permalink)
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maybe highest in the US, def not the highest in the world.

"One of the sharpest declines in the murder rate took place in Washington, D.C., where the number of murders fell by almost 25 percent; or from 397 murders to 300. Although this represents substantial progress, it probably does not represent enough of a decline for Washington to lose its title as the "world's murder capital." At an estimated 55.2 murders per 100,000 population (compared with 73.1 in 1996), Washington is likely to remain the world's most dangerous city when the FBI's final estimates are released in November. This continued degree of danger is one reason that an estimated 10,000 residents moved out of Washington in 1997.22"

http://www.heritage.org/Research/UrbanIssues/BG1216.cfm


This was right around the time of the Bullets-Wizards name switcheroo.



And say what you will about Abe's management, loyality to a HUGE fault w/Unseld, etc.....you can't question the man's humanitarian efforts in the city. Not saying changing the name helped anything other than jersey sales, but the man DOES do a lot for the city.
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