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jazzy1 · 03-23-2005, 11:14 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Mar23.html

This is the article here. Hughes is saying essentially that kicking the ball inside has become the teams focus and its not working. I find this puzzling because Kwame got 1 post up in the 2nd half of the Nuggets game and Haywood had about 2. He and Arenas are jacking shots up from all over the place going 1on1 and not passing yet its the emphasis on going inside thats bothering Hughes.

Even when the plays are called the team rarely even throws an entry pass inside because of the poor angles they throw the ball.

Hughes's frustration is misplaced. He should try finding his game before falsely criticising the teams approach.

Jamison not being there hurts but we have a bigger team now and the run and gun style isn't gonna work YET the bigger problem is the inablity of Hughes and Arenas to set teammates up.

**sagebrush** · 03-24-2005, 12:35 AM

He needs to stay focased on his game and let coach do the coaching. We have talked many times about getting our bigs in the game. It can and will work, Larry!!!

byrondarnell66 · 03-24-2005, 01:09 AM

Larry needs to be quiet and play ball. This team has certian changed (from being small to being big) sinse earlier in the year with the injuries and all. We simply can't plaly the way we did earlier so he is just gonna have to adjust and so as Gilbert.

**MJG** · 03-24-2005, 06:59 AM

I really don't see this new "inside focus" either. The offense seems pretty close to the same to me. We seem to hit Haywood a little big more often down low, maybe two more times per half, but that's about it. We can still count on 18-42 shooting from the starting backcourt, 10-18 shooting from the entire frontcourt.

thebac · 03-24-2005, 08:57 AM

This sounds mostly like frustration.

He played awesome on the night his return, but since then, he's regressed it seems.

Not sure why he's complaining about touches, as his FGA, FTA, and TO have all increased from before he was injured?

f22egl · 03-24-2005, 11:22 AM

It may have to do with that he only had 11 shots in the last game but he then had several turnovers in that game as well. I only hope this does not become a big distraction.

Shanghai Kid · 03-24-2005, 11:35 AM

Actually I do see what Larry is saying. We do feed Wood/Kwame/Etan alot more since Jamison has been out, and they do slow the game down because their like to iso and take half the shot clock up deciding what they're going to do. It's not really just the Denver game, but if you look it's been like that for a few weeks, feeding the bigs more and more and we haven't been a good offensive team and Kwame being back hasn't made us a better defensive team.

It's hard to explain, but we're not good enough defensively to slow the game down. Our success this year has been from pushing the ball, attacking the basket, and feeding the bigs for dunks. We can't afford to only score 90-95 a game, we have to score over 100 to be successful. That's why I think Jeffries and Jamison starting is better for the team THIS year, cause that's the only lineup that has proven to be successful.

It's not that giving the ball to the bigs in the low post is a bad thing, it's that our bigs are slow in deciding what they want to do. They take up half the shotclock just waiting for the defense to get out of the way They don't usually pass it out and they don't read the defenses good. What we need is a big who can hit a jumper and who is quick enough to cut to the basket and finish quickly.

I see why EG is playing this way though, you have to do something until Jamison gets back. But right now we have a backcourt and frontcourt who have contrasting styles, the backcourt wants to push the ball and the frontcourt wants to set up in the halfcourt and post up, in the future that's something to think about.

jazzy1 · 03-24-2005, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Shanghai Kid

Actually I do see what Larry is saying. We do feed Wood/Kwame/Etan alot more since Jamison has been out, and they do slow the game down because their like to iso and take half the shot clock up deciding what they're going to do. It's not really just the Denver game, but if you look it's been like that for a few weeks, feeding the bigs more and more and we haven't been a good offensive team and Kwame being back hasn't made us a better defensive team.

It's hard to explain, but we're not good enough defensively to slow the game down. Our success this year has been from pushing the ball, attacking the basket, and feeding the bigs for dunks. We can't afford to only score 90-95 a game, we have to score over 100 to be successful. That's why I think Jeffries and Jamison starting is better for the team THIS year, cause that's the only lineup that has proven to be successful.

It's not that giving the ball to the bigs in the low post is a bad thing, it's that our bigs are slow in deciding what they want to do. They take up half the shotclock just waiting for the defense to get out of the way They don't usually pass it out and they don't read the defenses good. What we need is a big who can hit a jumper and who is quick enough to cut to the basket and finish quickly.

I see why EG is playing this way though, you have to do something until Jamison gets back. But right now we have a backcourt and frontcourt who have contrasting styles, the backcourt wants to push the ball and the frontcourt wants to set up in the halfcourt and post up, in the future that's something to think about.

I think you and larry are dead *** wrong.

In 2 games the Lakers and Hawks game we incorporated both an inside and outside game then things shifted.

Against the Bucks Gilbert and Larry were jacking up shots where was this inside focus. Kwame didn't play and Blake and profit were running round with the other 2 guards jacking up shots.

Against Utah more of the same jacking up shots with Brendan and Etan getting about 5 shots a piece.

Then the in the Nuggets game we had nothing from our guards they were turning it over and taking quick shots which led to us getting fast breaked on.

Kwame and Brendan got only a few post ups.

How is this inside focus and Etan got garbage buckets as you and I have mentioned.

Now how is this an inside focus does Larry want the ball to never go inside is that his plan. to eliminate the 2 or 3 post ups Kwame gets a game.

Come on now thats ridiculous.

Lets speak on early in the year whne we were supposedly having success. Jamison was playing exceptionally well taking the ball inside and mixing it up outside. We were pushing the ball and gambling for steals. We were surprising teams with it.

NOW teams have adapted we have players nicked in Kwame, Arenas and Jamison and JJ and the push game just isn't there as much.

Larry forcing shots and creating to's is suddenly a by product of the style of play.

With the mighty Jamsion/JJ frontcourt we couldn't beat any of the teams with legit bigs that often.

Larry is making excuses is all.

Kwame has locked up the man he's been guarding. Held Al Harrington down, Held Okafor down, Held Kmart down until he was guarded by Etan,

Kwame has improved our defense, problem is when you take bad shots against teams that like to push your likely to get exposed.

And thats whats happend.

The main problem the Wizards have is they don't have a facilitator. They have no one who glues the team together on the court and balances passing and sharing of the ball.

With Jamsion out who likes to catch and shoot and make quick takes we have put the ball in the guards hands more which stifles ball movement. Larry and Gilbert are dribblers. And Blake in the mix another dribbler and there's no chance at getting high assist numbers.

Kwame I think holds it too long at times but he gets so few chances it doesn't affect the team BUT Kwame also gets assists from passing to open players he's gotten buckets for players that wanna move.

We don't need a cut and move big . We need a guard who can penetrate to pass and who looks to involve others without dribbling so much. Thats whats needed.

Along with someone on the perimeter who actually can contain the dribbler. They lack of perimeter defense is embarrasing We were getting broken down off the dribble by slow *** Howard Eisley.

Hughes's man defense has been slipping recently maybe the sore back has something to do with it.

Larry needs to quiet down and refocus on the game. I have no problem cracking EJ but do it about his substitutions not his gameplans because we're not playing any different.

Its just that when we take quick bad shots, Kwame and brendan don't get back as quick as Jamison did. Which is a small problem just take better shots.

Shanghai Kid · 03-24-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzy1

I think you and larry are dead *** wrong.

In 2 games the Lakers and Hawks game we incorporated both an inside and outside game then things shifted.

Against the Bucks Gilbert and Larry were jacking up shots where was this inside focus. Kwame didn't play and Blake and profit were running round with the other 2 guards jacking up shots.

Against Utah more of the same jacking up shots with Brendan and Etan getting about 5 shots a piece.

Then the in the Nuggets game we had nothing from our guards they were turning it over and taking quick shots which led to us getting fast breaked on.

Kwame and Brendan got only a few post ups.

How is this inside focus and Etan got garbage buckets as you and I have mentioned.

Now how is this an inside focus does Larry want the ball to never go inside is that his plan. to eliminate the 2 or 3 post ups Kwame gets a game.

Come on now thats ridiculous.

Lets speak on early in the year whne we were supposedly having success. Jamison was playing exceptionally well taking the ball inside and mixing it up outside. We were pushing the ball and gambling for steals. We were surprising teams with it.

NOW teams have adapted we have players nicked in Kwame, Arenas and Jamison and JJ and the push game just isn't there as much.

Larry forcing shots and creating to's is suddenly a by product of the style of play.

With the mighty Jamsion/JJ frontcourt we couldn't beat any of the teams with legit bigs that often.

Larry is making excuses is all.

Kwame has locked up the man he's been guarding. Held Al Harrington down, Held Okafor down, Held Kmart down until he was guarded by Etan,

Kwame has improved our defense, problem is when you take bad shots against teams that like to push your likely to get exposed.

And thats whats happend.

The main problem the Wizards have is they don't have a facilitator. They have no one who glues the team together on the court and balances passing and sharing of the ball.

With Jamsion out who likes to catch and shoot and make quick takes we have put the ball in the guards hands more which stifles ball movement. Larry and Gilbert are dribblers. And Blake in the mix another dribbler and there's no chance at getting high assist numbers.

Kwame I think holds it too long at times but he gets so few chances it doesn't affect the team BUT Kwame also gets assists from passing to open players he's gotten buckets for players that wanna move.

We don't need a cut and move big . We need a guard who can penetrate to pass and who looks to involve others without dribbling so much. Thats whats needed.

Along with someone on the perimeter who actually can contain the dribbler. They lack of perimeter defense is embarrasing We were getting broken down off the dribble by slow *** Howard Eisley.

Hughes's man defense has been slipping recently maybe the sore back has something to do with it.

Larry needs to quiet down and refocus on the game. I have no problem cracking EJ but do it about his substitutions not his gameplans because we're not playing any different.

Its just that when we take quick bad shots, Kwame and brendan don't get back as quick as Jamison did. Which is a small problem just take better shots.

Maybe, I see what your saying, the defense is the biggest problem, but until we fix that we have to do whatever we can to outscore the other team. I think what we're seeing now is really a product of Jamison being injured, theirs more pressure on the guards to score and they feel that. I don't have a problem with getting the ball to a healthy Kwame, but Kwame hasn't shown this year that he's a low post threat. He's too undecisive when he gets the ball. Haywood is usually effective when he gets the ball, but we need the bigs to be more decisive in the post and not take 13 seconds to figure out what their doing.

I agree Larry needs to talk about it with the coach instead of the media.

jazzy1 · 03-24-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shanghai Kid

Maybe, I see what your saying, the defense is the biggest problem, but until we fix that we have to do whatever we can to outscore the other team. I think what we're seeing now is really a product of Jamison being injured, theirs more pressure on the guards to score and they feel that. I don't have a problem with getting the ball to a healthy Kwame, but Kwame hasn't shown this year that he's a low post threat. He's too undecisive when he gets the ball. Haywood is usually effective when he gets the ball, but we need the bigs to be more decisive in the post and not take 13 seconds to figure out what their doing.

I agree Larry needs to talk about it with the coach instead of the media.

Kwame has been indecisive. He's not sure about his quickness. Last season he would explode middle or baseline. This year he's holding the ball and pounding it in not using any quickness at all. But part I think of it is being comfortable on the post from not playing he's not confortable with his moves.

Their needs to be more trust on the team. Larry and Gilbert I also think need to be on the same page. They seem out of sync with each other. They haven't looked smooth to me since Larry's been back. Early in the season they werer clicking but I think Arenas got used to increased workload with Hughes out and is now having to adjust to sharing the ball.

Injuries have really disrupted the flow they're gonna have to win games on talent now.

I think in the playoffs the game being played in bursts and slower for the most part will help the team. The game will be possesion by possesion then. Our bigs will be much more of a help. And we won't be penalized as much with quick shots because teams will be reluctant to run out all the time coaches will try and overcoach the games.

f22egl · 03-25-2005, 12:07 AM

Looking at the game tonight, I think Kwame needs to shoot the ball more when he gets it. More often than not, he he gets good position and has only his man to beat one on one. When he passes the ball, it often leads to a turnover or a bad shot. He can improve on his passing once people start double teaming him.

As for Hughes, he was just frustrated how the Nugget's bigs were completely dstroying Washington's front line, but he didn't have too good of a game himself. He may have blamed some of this on the fact that he couldn't get to the basket for not only 2 or 3 more fg but also some extra free throw attempts.

But I don't really care how Hughes feels, I want the Wizards to get a feel on how well Kwame Brown can play and contribute to the franchise during his contract year.

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