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FJ_of _Rockaway · 02-25-2003, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by jazzy1!

At what 23 and with the MLE I wish we can find another bargain like that next year.

Well sure - good luck with that

Of course your rate of growth will be stalled as you wait for Hayward,Brown and JJ to come together upfront and you continue to suck up cap room with modest ( and overpaid )MLE signings when disclipline would be better advised to preserve cap room and make a play for a killer 2... and no I don't think Stack is it or part of the Wiz's future as I see it

You should let him go this summer if he opts out

Corey Maggette is your man

Then draft a real point guard from your likely late lottery position and have Lozza run combo at both spots

**johnston797** · 02-25-2003, 10:02 PM

yes, back again.

As for Ricky Davis, yes, the Wiz could have offered the same contract to him as Hughes. After the Cavs matched, they still would have been looking for their next player.

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Originally posted by FJ_of _Rockaway!
Jeff McInnis , Greg Buckner etc ... they all rationalise Lozza's cost in what he could have been bought for at the time there was the opportunity to buy him cheaper.

Compared to Buckner, Hughes shoots better from the field, from 3 and scores more than 100% more pts in 50% extra time.

Hughes numbers are significantly better than McInnis as well even if you do Jeff the favor of pro-rating the stats to 48 min/game.

Again, this would indicate that the Wiz made the right move offering more $$$ to Hughes.

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Originally posted by FJ_of _Rockaway!

Foster is a F/C and big always gets paid better than small - you know that . You cannot take a bigman's contract and realistically equate to reasonableness of a dime a dozen wing player's contract.

Bigs do get paid more than smalls for lesser performance. Hence, Bender, a 7ft swingman, got more coin than Artest and Hughes.

Saying that it is rational to pay Foster $3.8M and not rational to pay Hughes $4.5M is really, really a stretch.

If this were true, next I will hear that Bagaric should expect more money than Fizer and Crawford when their contracts expire.

Machinehead · 02-26-2003, 01:09 AM

Peace J797

We could keep skipping around the Mulberry bush on this one with both of us looking for holes in each other's rationale just for the sake of one of us playing defense and the other one playing offense

I'm

**johnston797** · 02-26-2003, 03:17 PM

Then, I'm

, too.

local_sportsfan · 02-27-2003, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by FJ_of _Rockaway!

I suggest you watch some Cavs games

A large part of the offense actually flows through Ricky . Its actually a shared offense with Ricky trying to share and initiate with Miles and Wags with Smush being used more traditionally

Just because Ricky is a scorer does not mean he is a black hole. Like your boy Stack he is avergaging over 5 assists a game and yea he has like 3 T/O a game but this is more him forcing the offense and trying to create plays with his passing game that is are too risky.

Young players will always fall victim to that type of ill discipline

With 5 boards and 2 steals a game whilst giving 22 points - let's just say that Ricky Davis is not the Cavs problem

Basically his play has had Darius Miles in the foetal position sucking his thumb because he has not been able to hack it .

Problem with the Cavs is that they are a young inexperienced side trying to find their identity and they have parts like Illgauskas that , good center that he is , is illsuited to a fast paced run and gun offense that they are trying to run

Oh... and nobody knows how to play co -ordinated team defense of that team yet even though there are some OK one on one defenders

Well I wholeheartedly disagree with you...and yes I've seen Cavs games.

Aside from the fact that Davis is a headcase (almost on par with Artest), he is a detriment to the team offensively. He is very much like Stack...needs the ball in his hands to be effective.

Anyway, my point isn't that Ricky Davis isn't worth the MLE...my point is that if you put LH is RD's position, he will put up big numbers. And if you dont buy that, just look at LH's second year in GS (23 ppg, 5 apg, 4 rpg). Eerily similar numbers....eerily similar records.

The Wizards brought in LH to play pg, and he's been effective. Couldn't do the same with RD.

btw isn't LH exactly what Cleveland is missing right now? A big pg who can defend sg and let Wagner play off the ball?

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