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Old 01-18-2007, 12:45 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Re: Wow Arenas did it again

It still isnt fair...He drops buckets, that is his role...why knock him for other aspects of the game, when they are not his specialty...and he still avgs about 6 boards 6 dimes a game...thats kinda all around to me...and he is like 6'4
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:46 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Dude, that question doesn't even warrent an answer but since you insist...here.

1. Bron
2. Tmac
3. Kobe
4. Pierce
5. Vince
6. Wade

These guys can still contribute even when their shots is off. Try watching more basketball.
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:50 AM   #93 (permalink)
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It still isnt fair...He drops buckets, that is his role...why knock him for other aspects of the game, when they are not his specialty...and he still avgs about 6 boards 6 dimes a game...thats kinda all around to me...and he is like 6'4
He's a PG so of course his assists has to be high - but thats even low for a PG running a team. And no way he averages 6 boards a game. Never mind you, hes a terrible defender.
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Re: Wow Arenas did it again

1on1 D isnt overrated...we arent talking CBs and WRs...If your teammates are sliding their feet, you can be a decent defensive team

I think he is up there in steals, so he plays the passing lanes well
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:00 AM   #95 (permalink)
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Dude, that question doesn't even warrent an answer but since you insist...here.

1. Bron
2. Tmac
3. Kobe
4. Pierce
5. Vince
6. Wade

These guys can still contribute even when their shots is off. Try watching more basketball.
No. I didn't say contribute. I said be good. Kobe, Lebron Wade, and Mac at times can be good distributors at times, but for the most part their best value is the threat of them scoring if they're off. Their presence oncourt gets attention drawn to them and away from their teammates, allowing for them to get off instead of him. That's a benefit of being a scorer, so in that sense scorers always have value.

But if those guys were scoring at a mere "contribution" clip, 12-14 points a game, they wouldn't be close to where they are now, or particularly good. That's not the point though.

Even when Gilbert is off, his presence and reputation as a scorer keeps him a factor, so to say he's useless is silly. If Gilbert and these guys weren't in the game, defenses would have so much pressure on their teammates they wouldn't even be as good as they would with these guys not shooting well.

And if you disagree with me you're basically saying if Gilbert, the as you deemed him "streaky" player wasn't hitting, you'd lay pressure off of him, because you say he has no value otherwise. You wouldn't make for a good coach if you're telling your players the opposing team's best scorer is useless, regardless of whether he's hitting or not.

I understand you though, Air Fly. Your basketball mind is fragile, I don't think you truly understand what the media doesn't put into your head.
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He's a PG so of course his assists has to be high - but thats even low for a PG running a team. And no way he averages 6 boards a game. Never mind you, hes a terrible defender.
So you're going to demean him for not having value if he's not scoring, then demean him being a good distributor because "of course" he has to have assists. What exactly do you expect from him?
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:27 AM   #97 (permalink)
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Arenas is really a testament to hard work, because he has literally improved every single year in the league, and I thought that would be pretty difficult this year given that he was pretty damn good last year, but once again he is putting himself one level higher. I am curious to see how good this kid can be, because he keeps surprising everyone with his new level of play every year. I don't think an MVP in the next couple of years is out of the question for him because he isn't that far off now and his work ethic is second to none. He is an absolute gymrat who lives and sleeps basketball.
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When your shots isn't falling there are other ways to contribute and still be valuable. Of course, you wouldn't know that though.
Um like get 9 rebounds last night? I find all the Arenas haters just spout the same misinformation over and over again without actually looking at the facts.
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Old 01-18-2007, 11:42 AM   #99 (permalink)
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Arenas is really a testament to hard work, because he has literally improved every single year in the league, and I thought that would be pretty difficult this year given that he was pretty damn good last year, but once again he is putting himself one level higher. I am curious to see how good this kid can be, because he keeps surprising everyone with his new level of play every year. I don't think an MVP in the next couple of years is out of the question for him because he isn't that far off now and his work ethic is second to none. He is an absolute gymrat who lives and sleeps basketball.
Correct you are. A couple nights ago was a matchup between Arenas and Redd, two players who's scoring average has gone up EVERY SINGLE YEAR they have been in the league. That is no small task.
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When your shots isn't falling there are other ways to contribute and still be valuable. Of course, you wouldn't know that though.
Hmm and did the Knicks double teaming Arenas have anything to do with Caron scoring 27 including being WIDE OPEN for a game winning dunk. Think about that for a sec. Caron Butler who averages about 20 a game is WIDE OPEN on the last play because of Arenas' scoring ability and ability to hit gamewinners. Maybe you should actually watch Wizards games. You tell people to watch more basketball, but its obvious you don't watch Gil.
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