[jazzy1]

EJ right now is doing the same horrible job coaching that Collins did the names change but the same losing style , MJ, Stackhouse, Hughes, is doing the same thing Arenas, Hayes and Hughes are doing except with more speed and athleticism.

Our guards are taking all ths shots while the bigs don't get a sniff.

Etan who's suddenly along with Laetner have taken Kwame's time. Etan scored 4 pts and grabbed 10rebs and Laet got 11 pts,big deal those stats mean nothing but laetner being outta defensive postion allowing Dalembert to make to alley oops cost us the game.

The way this team is playing is just like last season its bogus and we're gonna lose more games than last season playing this way.

Laetner is a perimeter playing non athletic bum who uses his savy to keep himself on the floor. The coach only see's his virtues never the negatives but always harp on Kwame negatives its bogus.

Kwame and Etan should be playing together with Kwame being fed the ball on the block.

If EJ believes he can win with Laetner he's a fool Kwame's getting shafted and its a shame. JJ isn't keeping people from coming down the lane either Kwame can do that if given the minutes.

We have 7 footers in kwame and Brendan whom EJ can't figure out how to use. Orlando and Doc Rivers probably could find a way to use them. Thia motion offense the way we play it only gets the guards shots they never look inside and Laet playing just faccilitates this because he's like having a 4th guard on the floor.

I'm thoroughly disgusted.

I actually don't mind Arenas's scoring and gunning but Hughes and Hayes need to feed the post. Laetner needs to be benched.


We're gonna lose to the Heat.

[Natty Dreadlockz]

Kwame and Etan should be playing together with Kwame being fed the ball on the block.

I agree... But... For the time bein Kwame should take a few lesson's from Etan on how to be a quality garbage man... That's not meant to be a diss on Etan either.

Thia motion offense the way we play it only gets the guards shots they never look inside and Laet playing just faccilitates this because he's like having a 4th guard on the floor.

I haven't seen a game... But... I've read all the box score's and your right... Hayes..Hughes and Arenas all ave in the mid to high teen's in shot attempt's... While the paint player's will be lucky to get 10 shot's a game.

We're gonna lose to the Heat.

I know your pissed, but come on... Hughes is gonna have anotha tough D assignment... But... The Heat power player's wit the exception of Haslem are playin terrible... They haven't been able to handle anybody on the board's... If there's a game where Kwame and Etan should own the paint... It's this game... That is if they get the ball... Peace

[NorthEast Wiz]

Originally posted by <b>jazzy1</b>!
The way this team is playing is just like last season its bogus and we're gonna lose more games than last season playing this way.

Jazzy, why did you expect us to win more games than last year? Last year most posters on this board were predicting 41 wins and this year the average has been about 32 -36. So I expect us to lose more games than last year. I actually was one of the more optomistic ones predicting 36 wins with Stack losing fewer than 20 games and 36 if he doesn't.

New major additions, new management, new coaches spells of a period of figuring some things out.

[erickboy22]

I'm disappointed that the Wiz couldn't get this game ... they had Philly on the ropes but Philly is just tenacious on D ... AI and Eric Snow had tons of steals (8 total) and Samuel Dalembert blocked 5 shots ... Like many ppl have said on this board ... it seems like it is a guard-scoring type of offense ... BUT what player do the Wiz have that can consistently get pts in the low post ... Arenas, Hughes and Jarvis can get their shots ... Etan is okay but he's still developing ... The Wiz have to also hit their free throws ... Philly in the 4th quarter seemed to hit every single one ...

Thoughts on players:

Arenas - as always is the leader of the team ... made it his mission to get the team on a quick start and attack Philly ... 18 pts in the first quarter ... got popped on a flagrant elbow by Dalembert and went after him during the game and even after the game ...

Hughes - consistent scorer and if Arenas wasn't on AI .... he had to take the task of running after AI ... A little no many TOs (5 TOs)

Jarvis - love his hustle ... goes after second shots (4 off Rebs) ... attacks the basket ... only going to get better ... also had 5 TOs ...

Bench - Dixon/Blake didn't play 2 well ... harassed by Snow and AI ... Dixon was avg 12 pts a game (2pts) Etan had to step up for the ineffective Kwame and Jefferies was ok

[jazzy1]

Originally posted by <b>NorthEast Wiz</b>!


Jazzy, why did you expect us to win more games than last year? Last year most posters on this board were predicting 41 wins and this year the average has been about 32 -36. So I expect us to lose more games than last year. I actually was one of the more optomistic ones predicting 36 wins with Stack losing fewer than 20 games and 36 if he doesn't.

New major additions, new management, new coaches spells of a period of figuring some things out.

I'm pissed but you're right we may lose more than last season but the spirirt of what I'm saying is this. We have the talent to make the playoffs this season we have size, athleticism and good defensive principles.

But EJ is killing us with his inability to see the weaknesses in the way he's using our players. We are using Laetner as our starting center thats pathetic. When he plays the other teams pretty much know they can go right down the paint without regard for getting defended inside. His mere presence causes teams to believe that they can attack our interior with brendfan,Etan and Kwame down there teams know they will get contested. JJ playing pf doesn't scare anyone either.

I feel we have the talent to contend in the east for a playoff spot and EJ is blowing it playing just as Collins did last year with a perimeter oriented gameplan and using Laet as our pf we lost tons of games the lasyt two season with Laet playing that should tell someone something.

[jazzy1]

Originally posted by <b>Eagle</b>!

I agree... But... For the time bein Kwame should take a few lesson's from Etan on how to be a quality garbage man... That's not meant to be a diss on Etan either.


I haven't seen a game... But... I've read all the box score's and your right... Hayes..Hughes and Arenas all ave in the mid to high teen's in shot attempt's... While the paint player's will be lucky to get 10 shot's a game.


I know your pissed, but come on... Hughes is gonna have anotha tough D assignment... But... The Heat power player's wit the exception of Haslem are playin terrible... They haven't been able to handle anybody on the board's... If there's a game where Kwame and Etan should own the paint... It's this game... That is if they get the ball... Peace

Whats up Eagle you'rer right I'm pissed this team has the talent to make some noise but because EJ is falling into Laetners trap we can't win.

The cavs were winless when we hit town but they felt they could beat us because we were gonna try and beat them with our perimeter guys and there players with size and hops muscled their way to victory because Laet was guarding the interior for big minutes.

Now the Heats perimeter players Jones, Wade, Butler, Odom are very talented and Grant is tough if we play the perimeter game with them which plays to their strength instead of attacking the interior we're gonna lose again because playing at home ,the desperation of being winless and Laet covering the basket it all means defeat, the heat will feel they can win because of the style of playing to their strength the perimeter game that is all I'm, saying.

[Natty Dreadlockz]

Now the Heats perimeter players Jones, Wade, Butler, Odom are very talented and Grant is tough if we play the perimeter game with them which plays to their strength instead of attacking the interior we're gonna lose again because playing at home ,the desperation of being winless and Laet covering the basket it all means defeat, the heat will feel they can win because of the style of playing to their strength the perimeter game that is all I'm, saying.

You've got a reason to be pissed wit EJ's perimeter philosophy... I don't know if I'd say Huhges is take'n too many shot's... But... I'd agree that Arenas..Hughes and Hayes combined are... I took the time to look at the total shot attempt's to this point... Arenas(108 FGA).. Huhges(105 FGA) and Hayes(99 FGA)... Then there's Dixon(57 FGA)... Hopefully... The the guard's will atleast make an attempt to take advantage of the fact, that other than Haslem and Grant they have no inside game or depth... Kwame will have his hand's full wit Odom on defense, but should be able to get the better of him on the other end... I hope they win, because I'd hate to for the Wiz to give another team their first win of the season... Peace

[NorthEast Wiz]

I have a hard time with saying that Arenas and Jarvis are taking too many shots considering Arenas is shooting .463 and Jarvis is shooting .475. I do beleive that Hughes is getting jump shot happy and they need to run a few plays in the post.

I tend to agree with you that L8 should be playing less. JJ seems to be stepping up his game and I actually expect him to get much more playing time in the near future.

[MJG]

Originally posted by <b>NorthEast Wiz</b>!
I have a hard time with saying that Arenas and Jarvis are taking too many shots considering Arenas is shooting .463 and Jarvis is shooting .475. I do beleive that Hughes is getting jump shot happy and they need to run a few plays in the post.

I tend to agree with you that L8 should be playing less. JJ seems to be stepping up his game and I actually expect him to get much more playing time in the near future.

I pretty much agree with this. Hughes, while playing well overall, is shooting a bit too many long range jumpers for my taste. A lot of them come on fast breaks or going one on one as well, not in the flow of the offense, which I don't like to see. I think if he just slows the trigger finger down a bit, it'll help the team.

I'd also prefer to see a lot less Laettner on the court than we've been seeing since he began starting. I don't believe that he is part of any long-term plan that we have (I can already see him in a Bobcats jersey next season), and like Jazzy points out his defense is not very good. Him being in the game let's the other team attack the basket without any sort of fear. I don't think there is any reason we need to have him as our starting center when we have Etan sitting on the bench. Also, while I'm still down on Haywood for his poor play over the first few games, I believe that Brendan should be getting at least some time there each game, even if it is only 10 minutes or so.

[Natty Dreadlockz]

I have a hard time with saying that Arenas and Jarvis are taking too many shots considering Arenas is shooting .463 and Jarvis is shooting .475. I do beleive that Hughes is getting jump shot happy and they need to run a few plays in the post.

Huhges could do better than 25 FT attempt's in 7 games... But... He's second on the team in assit's and third in FT attempt's, while shootin .425 from the field and .400 from the 3pt line... What's irk'n me isn't the FG%, it's the fact that the paint player's wit the exception of sorry *** L8nerr aren't gettin any look's... Arenas.. Hughes and Hayes have attempted over 300 shot's combined... While Kwame.. Jeffries and Thomas have all attempted around 40... You get more Wiz games on the tube than I do... So you tell me... Is 300 shot's from your point..sg and sf excessive or right in line wit what you'd like to see?... Peace

[MJG]

Honestly, I now go into games expecting our perimeter players (IE Arenas/Hughes/Hayes/Dixon) to score at least 2/3 of our points, and that percentage gets closer to 3/4 if you count Laettner as a perimeter player (I didn't there, but he basically is). At this point we have no inside game at all really. We probably get 10 PPG or less off of planned post ups from Kwame/Etan/Jeffries. The real problem is that we don't really even try to go to them down low. It seems that the only reason one of those guys gets the ball in the post is because the offense has stalled and the perimeter guys can't find something for themselves -- it's never what we're actually looking to do. I could understand that if we were a team like the the Bucks or Heat, who have little in the way of talented post players. However, we have three good, talented, young players in Kwame/Etan/Jeffries who all like playing down low, and they just aren't a main point of the offense.

As Jazzy said, it's fool's gold. We may be competitive and may even look good doing it, but we aren't really going anywhere with no inside game.