BCH

If a trade is going to be made with the 5th pick, who or what would you want? Would you try and package it with a player? What is it going to be worth?

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shyFX325

someone had said something about the sonics trading their pick (12 +/-) and radmonivich for the 5th. I refuse to believe the sonics would go for that but i think that would be a pretty sweet deal. Turning the 5th pick into radman and a project center, maybe even pavel, would be amazing.

Anyway you look at it the best thing for the wizards to do though is stay at 5 and hope the clippers dont grab shaun livingston. In 2 years when livingston develops and haywood has learned to catch the ball this will be a great team (as long as kwame develops as i believe he will). I understand what everyone is saying about how the wizards dont have two years to wait and cant take on a project. Well i hate to break it to you but if you want an impact player this isnt the year to try. The short term benefit of someone like josh childress does not come close to the big picture that the livingston pick would give you. With shaun you could move arenas to an AI-esque 2 posistion (guarding the opposing one, and not having to persay run the offense/get others involved). Livingston can play the role of a more potent eric snow, but with the jkidd court vision and passing. his 6ft 7 height gives you this option which you wouldnt have with another small guard. Even bigger than his height though is that court vizion and passing i have mentioned before. His game is exactly what kwame needs to make that next step.

If the wizards want impact now )which i am sure they do) there best shot would be to try and pawn off NEXT years first to charlotte and have them take laettner off our hands. Than turn that and our extra cap space into a FA center looking for a lil over the MLE.... dampier, OKUR, could sheed play C in the east (and how would he play next to kwame??)

PG - Livingston/Blake/Dixon
SG - Arenas/someone else
SF - Stack/Hayes
PF - Kwame/that other guy
C - Okur???

rather than having the wizards try and choose someone like childress who may play well early and help us make the 8th seed in the playoffs the next few years I would much rather go with something like this and for the first time in a while have the actual core of a possible championship caliber team in place.

One more sidenote on drafting Josh childress (which i am endlessly against if you havent noticed) is that it will be the 4th straight draft pick we have spent on a SF.

04 - josh childress - really dont think he is gonna turn out too much and is worth the chance of going after someone like shaun. If you are gonna fail; at least fail big
03 - hayes .... might be my favorite of the bunch. But will he progress
02 - JJ ... booooooooo
01 - rip .... but traded for stack... think he could come around but he will need a more passing PG than arenas to get him involved

shyFX325

sorry about the thread hijacking there.... started talking about the trade and than i just went all over the place.

Shanghai Kid

I would like to find a way to get Rashard Lewis, or Al Harrington, or Johnathon Bender, or any good SF.

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BCH

Wizards still have a 1st to convey to Orlando (Haywood trade) so they are constrained from including a future first until that is settled.

Turning the 5th into Rashard Lewis would be nice. I am not sure about Bender. I think Al Harrington is too much of a PF.

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MikeDC

I'm not a big fan of Rashard Lewis. I mean, I'd take him and everything because he's a long 3 who can score, but I seem him and think S-O-F-T.

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jazzy1

At Wizards .com the list of people the Wizards worked out is interesting. Andris Biedrins was at the top of the list. He may have been the 1st person to have worked out. I hope he isn't our pick.

MikeDC

How would you guys feel about Tyson Chandler for the Wizards.

Kind of along the lines of my thinking with Howard, I'm intrigued by the idea of a Chandler and Kwame front line. If he's healthy (and he's supposedly healthy and working his *** off in Chicago), he's ahead of any of the bigs the Wiz could get with the pick and I think he's still got plenty of potential.

For the Bulls, I think they'd at least consider it because we can capably get by with JYD and Antonio Davis for another couple of years, but we're really hurting at the wing spots. Now, I don't think Paxson does it, but if I were sufficiently sold on Josh Smith, I think I'd do it. The Bulls would end up taking two out of three of Deng, Smith, and Iggy, which looks to me like a potentially very nice set of guys.

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jazzy1

Why would the Wizards want Chandler and his balky back. Do you know about Wizards luck. Its part of the Wizards credo to not trade or draft players with injury or injury potential because then they'd never play a minute for us.

We have enough bigs and we sure don't need a skinny injured one who can't shoot straight. And I like Chandler but I wouldn't be interested in taking the Bulls problem to make their team better in the same Eastern conference.

Giving up 5 for Chandler is giving up too much. He's not that valuable for us.

We'd just as well take a chance on Iggy, Deng, Livingston, Childress, Josh Smith or Pavel ourselves.

BCH

I would do it if Deng, Okafor, and Howard are off the table. I am unsure about Livingston because I think he will be good.

I would rather have Chandler than the rest of the other guys. I know his back will give out completely with the Wizards, but I still think he can be effective while I hope his back holds up.

If this happens, Thomas and/or Hughes could be traded for a SF. Or instead of Thomas, Haywood and/or Hughes can be moved for a better SF. Even if no moves were made, Stackhouse/Hayes/Jeffries SF tandem isn't that bad.

The Wizards win when they play defense. They cried a lot about offense last year, but at the end of the day, they won when they didn't turn the ball over, and when they played D.

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CP26

I love this trade:
GS Trades J-Rich and Dampier
Wiz trade Stack, Laettner and 5th pick.

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BCH

I am not sure J-Rich helps us anymore than Stack would.

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Hawks4ever

Pietrus would help more, you don't have a shut-down defender

CP26

IMO J-Rich is a crowd filler, he can get us money I think. I would easily pick J-Rich over Stack though.

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jazzy1

5th pick for a 20ppg scorer who plays no defense and Damp. Nah I'll keep the 20ppg non defender in Stack and take chances finding someone in this draft.

Damp is intriguing though.

But why whould GSW give up so much for an overpaid Stack and number 5. They like someone that much in this draft.

I think a healthy Stack is better than J Rich anyway.