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Old 06-12-2004, 09:36 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Who would want Stackhouse and his contract?
His contract is actually very fair in my opinion -- it's only $22 million over three years. That's just a bit over $7 million each season, which is pretty decent for a guy that will get you 20/4/4 fairly regularly. Unless a team is only interested in deals that expire sooner rather than later, I don't think his contract will be what holds him up too much.

On the other part of the question though, I have no clue who would actually want him. He certainly seems to have the reputation as a me-first player, and I hear him called injury-prone far too often (which is untrue -- discounting this season, he's only missed an average of <i>six</i> games per season). The general feeling people seem to have is that only once in his career has he really tried to help his team more than himself, that one year in Detroit he lost like 10 PPG off of his previous year's average.

I have a tough time picturing Stackhouse gone when we have Hughes is sitting there with a combination of a less negative stigma surrounding him and an expiring $5.5 million contract. He has been called selfish as well, but people generally think less so because he isn't as big a name as Stackhouse I guess. In actuality he probably is more so, but that's not what people think, and in trades it's what people think that's important.

As much as we talk about having too many perimeter players, it's very possible that that won't be so true by the time the offseason is done. Dixon will very likely be gone in the expansion draft in my opinion, Hughes or Stackhouse has a good shot at being dealt, and I think Jeffries gets at least as many minutes at PF as he does SF. The more I've thought about it, the less I'm interested in drafting a specific position or type of player and the more I'm interested in drafting just whoever management believes will be the best player.

If that's a PG, then when he's ready to be a full-time starter then we can slide Arenas to SG (which I believe he's fully capable of playing). If that's a SG, we can let Hughes go in the offseason or deal Stackhouse to make room. If that's a SF, that's great because we don't have anyone who's really captured that position as "MINE" so far. If that's a PF, like with Arenas we can bump Kwame over to center (also like Arenas, I believe he can play there just fine). If that's a C, well, as much as I like Haywood, he's sure not going to hold the guy back.
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Old 06-12-2004, 12:04 PM   #32 (permalink)
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His contract is actually very fair in my opinion -- it's only $22 million over three years. That's just a bit over $7 million each season, which is pretty decent for a guy that will get you 20/4/4 fairly regularly. Unless a team is only interested in deals that expire sooner rather than later, I don't think his contract will be what holds him up too much.

On the other part of the question though, I have no clue who would actually want him. He certainly seems to have the reputation as a me-first player, and I hear him called injury-prone far too often (which is untrue -- discounting this season, he's only missed an average of <i>six</i> games per season). The general feeling people seem to have is that only once in his career has he really tried to help his team more than himself, that one year in Detroit he lost like 10 PPG off of his previous year's average.

I have a tough time picturing Stackhouse gone when we have Hughes is sitting there with a combination of a less negative stigma surrounding him and an expiring $5.5 million contract. He has been called selfish as well, but people generally think less so because he isn't as big a name as Stackhouse I guess. In actuality he probably is more so, but that's not what people think, and in trades it's what people think that's important.

As much as we talk about having too many perimeter players, it's very possible that that won't be so true by the time the offseason is done. Dixon will very likely be gone in the expansion draft in my opinion, Hughes or Stackhouse has a good shot at being dealt, and I think Jeffries gets at least as many minutes at PF as he does SF. The more I've thought about it, the less I'm interested in drafting a specific position or type of player and the more I'm interested in drafting just whoever management believes will be the best player.

If that's a PG, then when he's ready to be a full-time starter then we can slide Arenas to SG (which I believe he's fully capable of playing). If that's a SG, we can let Hughes go in the offseason or deal Stackhouse to make room. If that's a SF, that's great because we don't have anyone who's really captured that position as "MINE" so far. If that's a PF, like with Arenas we can bump Kwame over to center (also like Arenas, I believe he can play there just fine). If that's a C, well, as much as I like Haywood, he's sure not going to hold the guy back.
For some reason I thought his contract was worse than that. Nonetheless, I still don't think any team would want to trade for him. He can score, but that's about it. And he can only score with the ball in his hands. It's ironic that he got traded for Rip Hamilton, because they score about the same amount of points, but the way they get them is complete opposites. Rip is a catch and shoot, coming off screens scorer, whereas Stackhouse must command the ball to be effective. He's not the kind of player teams want to have if they want to win ball games. His attitude and desire are questionable at best, and I just don't see why any team would want him on their team.
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Old 06-12-2004, 06:27 PM   #33 (permalink)
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well stackhouse is a decent all around player. he can get 20 ppg, 4-5 apg, and 4 rpg. his attitude isnt questionable but more so his health. the best option would be for stackhouse to be taken because the wizards could certainly get a better player to replace him (well if they dont screw up).

but it'd be intriguing to see how welll this lineup can play if he is fully healthy. but if he isnt, who would want him? the best thing to hope for is that the bobcats will take him for nothing.
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Old 06-13-2004, 07:33 PM   #34 (permalink)
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actually I hope denver takes a look at stackhouse
but if they do know...they wont need to deal with Washington
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