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12-20-2007, 06:07 AM
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Re: Raw 12/17 (Armageddon Fallout)
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Originally Posted by Four_Season_Hustler
But John Cena, Randy Orton, Batista moveset are so Main Event hell i think they could wrestle in the Olympic  wth does moveset got to do with anything if anything Hardy got a decent one atleast his finsher isnt a fireman carry
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I think Ortons moveset is built for main eventing. Its funny, most of you knock Orton for his attitude and his boring (I dont think they are TOO boring) promos, but not his ring work. As for Cena and Batista, Ive said so many times that I dont like them and I think Cena shouldve never been brought to the main event scene. He would be alot better in the mid card, for me personally. And wtf are you talking about, a Senton Bomb isnt that much better than a firemans carry. Do we even need to argue about where he is now?
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Lol @ moveset being midcard. Didnt Rey Mysterio win the title not too long ago, heck isnt he one of Smackdown's big names
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and did I ever say that I liked that rey mysterio was a great world champ? I believe id said before that hes sucked ever since he joined with konnan in wcw. he was a great cruiserweight. now he just sucks by comparison. And even back then I wouldve never given him the belt.
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I know, it's ridiculous. They must think that Triple H, Batista and The Undertaker have great move sets.  Oh yeah, Hogan too. For whatever reason a lot of these guys just hate Jeff Hardy. Personally, I think his matches are always exciting and I don't know who is more deserving of getting this kind of push right now. So because he's not The Rock on the microphone you guys want to tear him down? I guess you'd prefer Santino Marella as the next champ...just can't get enough of that guy!
Whatever, I'm done arguing this because it's pointless. Everybody has their own opinions, I just happen to strongly disagree with the prevailing attitude on this issue.
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Triple H and Undertaker are good at what they do, but they dont get repetitive in the ring. Triple H can brawl, wrestle and cuts great promos. Same with Undertaker, why are you even putting Batista into the equasion. Hell, Undertaker does moves for a guy his size, hes even dove over the top rope sometime this year, I forget when and where. The point is, you can put Undertaker and Triple H in the ring against anyone and the match would be good. Case in point, Undertaker vs Jeff in that ladder match, or even last sundays match with Triple H. 6 months ago, you people were arguing whether or not jeff would ever main event, and now its not even a question, because hes getting a push. But the fact of the matter is still that if it werent for his high spots I doubt he would even be mentioned in the conversation. And his moveset is limited to high flying movesa couple of crowd pop moves and a somewhat decent finisher. Can any of you see him winning a hell in the cell? A king of the ring? Royal Rumble? Ironman? Matches that dont favor high flyers. Do yall even think about this or are the phasers set to flame.. ffs.
and I LIKE Hardy, I think they messed up when they had him jobbing to Umaga and whatever the monster of the week was at the time. They should have built up credible challengers for the IC belt and let Jeff win. You establish the IC belts cred again, AND you give jeff the cred he needs to be a main eventer. Just the way things are right now, he doesnt (to me) look like a strong contender for the belt.
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12-20-2007, 06:10 AM
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Re: Raw 12/17 (Armageddon Fallout)
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Originally Posted by King Joseus
I don't think Hardy has to be the underdog. He's hung with the top guys and he's been around long enough that he can be a credible champion for a month or two. That being said, I still see Orton winning at the Rumble...
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they are billing him as the underdog, he had to roll up triple h for the win, making it an upset victory rather than him winning with the swanton. Jeff needs major victories, convincing victories. Hopefully by royal rumble that will be the case. I dont know whats so hard to understand about what I said. the way wwe bills him, hes a midcarder. a short reign will also hurt him in the long run, look at rey.
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12-20-2007, 12:48 PM
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Re: Raw 12/17 (Armageddon Fallout)
I dont get why everyone thinks Kennedy should be the next WWE Champion...Imo is would just make Raw worse so far in this HBK feud Kennedy has shown to me that he is not ready for the Main Event ever since getting moved to Raw he has become stale and kinda boring his mic work is OVERRATED and his ring work is decent(but it not like ring work matter in the WWE anymore) Imo he is just gonna be the Carlito of 2008 everyone thinks he is the next big thing but he turns out not to be...One guy i think can help Raw is MVP he has shown he can hold his own in the ring and on the mic why not give him a run as top heel on one of the Brand? Maybe he can get drafted to Raw in the post WM draft i have been reading about...Have him feud with someone that can put him over at first like Jericho or HBK/Flair then give him a run as top heel see how he does..Also WWE needs to move Edge back to Raw seriously wtf is the Top Heel in the company doing on Smackdown? While Edge was champ on Raw the rating went up and its seemed like people where caring about Raw more i just dont get why he was moved to Smackdown in the first place..If WWE wants Raw to be top brand they need Edge back
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12-20-2007, 12:55 PM
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Re: Raw 12/17 (Armageddon Fallout)
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I dont get why everyone thinks Kennedy should be the next WWE Champion...Imo is would just make Raw worse so far in this HBK feud Kennedy has shown to me that he is not ready for the Main Event ever since getting moved to Raw he has become stale and kinda boring his mic work is OVERRATED and his ring work is decent(but it not like ring work matter in the WWE anymore) Imo he is just gonna be the Carlito of 2008 everyone thinks he is the next big thing but he turns out not to be...One guy i think can help Raw is MVP he has shown he can hold his own in the ring and on the mic why not give him a run as top heel on one of the Brand? Maybe he can get drafted to Raw in the post WM draft i have been reading about...Have him feud with someone that can put him over at first like Jericho or HBK/Flair then give him a run as top heel see how he does..Also WWE needs to move Edge back to Raw seriously wtf is the Top Heel in the company doing on Smackdown? While Edge was champ on Raw the rating went up and its seemed like people where caring about Raw more i just dont get why he was moved to Smackdown in the first place..If WWE wants Raw to be top brand they need Edge back
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I'm in the same boat about Kennedy.
I see a lot that's encouraging. I don't see a lot that's especially good at the moment.
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12-20-2007, 01:05 PM
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Re: Raw 12/17 (Armageddon Fallout)
I'm a fan of Kennedy but he's one of those guys that people on the internet love then proceed to overrate. Ee's entertaining but he's not the guy to walk around with the company's highest belt on, at least not in the near future.
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12-20-2007, 01:08 PM
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Re: Raw 12/17 (Armageddon Fallout)
I have never liked Kennedy
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12-20-2007, 01:14 PM
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Re: Raw 12/17 (Armageddon Fallout)
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I have never liked Kennedy
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Me neither, I don't see anything I haven't seen in other wrestlers before.
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12-20-2007, 01:26 PM
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Re: Raw 12/17 (Armageddon Fallout)
I won't bash on Kennedy, but I've gotta say he's had some unfortunate occurrences on his path and he could be in a much better situation now if not for them.
He was ready to ride a year's worth of buildup when he won MITB, but then he got injured and they gave it to Edge. Then he went and got suspended for 30 days.
Right now, he belongs in the IC division and I think that's where the WWE will be putting him. He'll probably be given another push towards the main event scene if he shows improvement during his run there.
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12-23-2007, 02:34 PM
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Re: Raw 12/17 (Armageddon Fallout)
Lol go to WWE.com and click on the Royal Rumble page...The promo picture for the PPV has Randy Orton holding a spinner belt with Triple H name on it...Since WWE brought in the Spinner Belt has Triple H held it? Im pretty sure he hasnt why would it has his name on it?
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12-23-2007, 03:27 PM
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