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**Headliner** · 08-20-2012, 08:25 PM

The show was ok I guess. They still need to figure out how to work a 3 show show. It still seems like it drags. Honestly it will probably always drag no matter what they do.

**BlueBaron** · 08-20-2012, 09:00 PM

Wasn't a terrible show. Hopefully Orton gets back into the title picture. Kaitlyn proves they've quit hiring models as divas. God damn she's ugly. The end was stupid as hell. They ruined it with the addition of Lawler. AJ as GM is ok. I'd rather have her than Big Johnny. I see them bringing Jericho back in a "win this match, get a contract scenario".

**Basel** · 08-20-2012, 09:16 PM

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CMPunk

I did it for Andy Kaufman.

**Cinco de Mayo** · 08-20-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by roux2dope

I really dislike AJ as gm... in a world of un-belivable bullshit that is pro wrestling, her being in charge of raw may be the most ridiculous thing in the history of the show.. they should have kept her as a valet type

Definitely a Poochie quality to her.

WWE found out we liked her and her segments got ratings, so now she's going to be in a dozen different segments every week to the point where people will naturally turn on her.

Really lousy acting out of her lately, too, but I guess it's tough to pull off when her character has to vacillate between being the even-handed, thoughtful GM and a vindictive psycho without the two personalities ever really conflicting. If they wanted to put her over as a loon, she'd be making loony matches. Not the exact same ones as any other authority figure in the history of authority figures. Instead, she just feeds midcarders to Ryback, Big Show and Kane. Dumb.

**Cinco de Mayo** · 08-20-2012, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FSH

Jinder vs. Ryback could be a solid feud. WWE got has alot of mid carder feuds going on right now

It's about time, even though this is going to be an awfully one-sided feud.

**Cinco de Mayo** · 08-20-2012, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by UD40

So since I'm still trying to get back into the swing of things...Cole is a heel now, right?

If so, he needs to stop doing the on-again-off-again heel/face changes. It seems to change with every match he calls.

Cole and Lawler are literally the worst thing about the current product.

It's incredible to hear Cole act like the biggest douchebag on the planet for an hour straight, then stop on a dime, cheese for the camera and shill whatever movie, campaign, etc. WWE is doing at the moment with a big smile on his face. Like he's our buddy. He's also fallen into that Tony Schiavone galaxy where everything that week is the greatest thing any company has ever done.

Seeing him dance during that Kevin Rudolf song during SummerSlam convinced me that I'll never let my children watch wrestling unless half-naked women are hitting each other with frying pans again. I don't know if I've ever been more embarrassed watching WWE than that moment.

And King is worse. He was mailing it in when John Cena was a rapper. He's useless. I felt bad for him when Cole threw him under the bus for the Divas match, and all he could do was stammer for two minutes. Pitiful.

XxIrvingxX · 08-21-2012, 03:55 PM

My thoughts on the show: I like that we're seeing some mid card feuds for once. Ryback/Mahal and Rhodes/Cara, I like it. I think it's great stuff and it's a good way to build up matches for PPV. Believe it or not, I actually like Katlyn winning the royal and being the new contender for the title. I don't think she's that good, in fact I think she's horrible but at least it's something new. Here's my question though. Why wasn't Beth Phoenix in the battle royal? And while I'm at it, where the hell was Kelly Kelly?? We saw her clear as day as being one of the participants for the match, why wasn't she actually in the match?? Is WWE literally too stupid to see such an obvious error? No big deal I guess, less kelly kelly the better I suppose (unless it's against Beth, Beth just seems to bring out the best in her).

I don't care at all for the Brock part since we know he's going to be back, didn't care at all for the HBK segment even if it was done in a okay fashion, the whole speech seemed like pointless filler. And I REALLY don't care at all for HHH.

Matches were okay, most of the promos were good. There's one thing I'm confused about though. Cm Punk said that he would face Cena under one condition and said he would reveal it later on. Did he ever reveal what that condition was??

Oh and as for what I think about Aj, I already said that I don't think she pulls off the look of a GM very well. Idk, I just don't think she looks right in that suit while trying to act in character. It's just stupid and it isn't believable that someone like this would be put in charge of a show. We're supposed to believe that Vince is a genius, I have no reason to call him a genius after he decided to put a person who has little to no experience what so ever in charge of a show. Come on now. At least try to be a LITTLE realistic. I think Aj being the GM is a huge mistake and it will come back to haunt them. What they should have made Aj was into a psycho kind of person out for revenge, taking it out on the divas division. Have her constantly beat the shit out of others for the ****s of it, what ever you can. Give us a reason to be interested in seeing what she does next. The reason people were so interested in her was because her character was always surprising us and was unpredictable. Here that's all gone. She's a GM so she's suddenly predictable. We know she won't do anything interesting.

So regardless of whether or not you think she does a good job as playing the GM role, it's still a bad idea for someone of her character. WWE could easily do so much more with her by having her just face other divas and they could easily make her more interesting. Why they choose not to is beyond me.

**Knick Killer** · 08-21-2012, 06:20 PM

I guarantee the only reason why they had Jericho win at Summerslam just to lose to Ziggler the nenxt night is because they didn't want the end of Jericho's career to overshadow the end of Triple H's. Have I mentioned that I hate Triple H?

Anyways, decent show. AJ sucks as GM, still don't get why PTP aren't tag champs, and the diva battle royal was painful to watch but overall it was alright.

XxIrvingxX · 08-22-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Knick Killer

I guarantee the only reason why they had Jericho win at Summerslam just to lose to Ziggler the nenxt night is because they didn't want the end of Jericho's career to overshadow the end of Triple H's. Have I mentioned that I hate Triple H?

Anyways, decent show. AJ sucks as GM, still don't get why PTP aren't tag champs, and the diva battle royal was painful to watch but overall it was alright.

Or maybe they just wanted to give Jericho a win for once lol.

**roux2dope** · 08-22-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by XxIrvingxX

My thoughts on the show: I like that we're seeing some mid card feuds for once. Ryback/Mahal and Rhodes/Cara, I like it. I think it's great stuff and it's a good way to build up matches for PPV. Believe it or not, I actually like Katlyn winning the royal and being the new contender for the title. I don't think she's that good, in fact I think she's horrible but at least it's something new. Here's my question though. Why wasn't Beth Phoenix in the battle royal? And while I'm at it, where the hell was Kelly Kelly?? We saw her clear as day as being one of the participants for the match, why wasn't she actually in the match?? Is WWE literally too stupid to see such an obvious error? No big deal I guess, less kelly kelly the better I suppose (unless it's against Beth, Beth just seems to bring out the best in her).

I don't care at all for the Brock part since we know he's going to be back, didn't care at all for the HBK segment even if it was done in a okay fashion, the whole speech seemed like pointless filler. And I REALLY don't care at all for HHH.

Matches were okay, most of the promos were good. There's one thing I'm confused about though. Cm Punk said that he would face Cena under one condition and said he would reveal it later on. Did he ever reveal what that condition was??

Oh and as for what I think about Aj, I already said that I don't think she pulls off the look of a GM very well. Idk, I just don't think she looks right in that suit while trying to act in character. It's just stupid and it isn't believable that someone like this would be put in charge of a show. We're supposed to believe that Vince is a genius, I have no reason to call him a genius after he decided to put a person who has little to no experience what so ever in charge of a show. Come on now. At least try to be a LITTLE realistic. I think Aj being the GM is a huge mistake and it will come back to haunt them. What they should have made Aj was into a psycho kind of person out for revenge, taking it out on the divas division. Have her constantly beat the shit out of others for the ****s of it, what ever you can. Give us a reason to be interested in seeing what she does next. The reason people were so interested in her was because her character was always surprising us and was unpredictable. Here that's all gone. She's a GM so she's suddenly predictable. We know she won't do anything interesting.

So regardless of whether or not you think she does a good job as playing the GM role, it's still a bad idea for someone of her character. WWE could easily do so much more with her by having her just face other divas and they could easily make her more interesting. Why they choose not to is beyond me.

Maybe its because she is a kid that has been relevent for 3 months.

**Knick Killer** · 08-23-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by XxIrvingxX

Or maybe they just wanted to give Jericho a win for once lol.

Doubtful.

**R-Star** · 08-24-2012, 06:24 PM

Wow. Just switched over to Smackdown for a minute. Just thought I'd give it a try. There was a dude with an accent talking. Decent mic skills.

Then he pulls out a green sock puppet and started having a conversation.

What the **** are you guys doing?

08-20-2012, 08:25 PM	#61 (permalink)
Headliner ____________ Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,892 Rep Power: 665818	Re: Monday Night Raw [SummerSlam Fallout - 08/20/12] The show was ok I guess. They still need to figure out how to work a 3 show show. It still seems like it drags. Honestly it will probably always drag no matter what they do.

08-20-2012, 09:00 PM	#62 (permalink)
BlueBaron Reloaded Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,815 Rep Power: 8869104	Re: Monday Night Raw [SummerSlam Fallout - 08/20/12] Wasn't a terrible show. Hopefully Orton gets back into the title picture. Kaitlyn proves they've quit hiring models as divas. God damn she's ugly. The end was stupid as hell. They ruined it with the addition of Lawler. AJ as GM is ok. I'd rather have her than Big Johnny. I see them bringing Jericho back in a "win this match, get a contract scenario". __________________

08-21-2012, 06:20 PM	#68 (permalink)
Knick Killer -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Age: 20 Posts: 9,417 Rep Power: 8494693	Re: Monday Night Raw [SummerSlam Fallout - 08/20/12] I guarantee the only reason why they had Jericho win at Summerslam just to lose to Ziggler the nenxt night is because they didn't want the end of Jericho's career to overshadow the end of Triple H's. Have I mentioned that I hate Triple H? Anyways, decent show. AJ sucks as GM, still don't get why PTP aren't tag champs, and the diva battle royal was painful to watch but overall it was alright. __________________

08-24-2012, 06:24 PM	#72 (permalink)
R-Star BBB.net Archivist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The village of Clive, bro Age: 30 Posts: 37,845 Rep Power: 21474884	Re: Monday Night Raw [SummerSlam Fallout - 08/20/12] Wow. Just switched over to Smackdown for a minute. Just thought I'd give it a try. There was a dude with an accent talking. Decent mic skills. Then he pulls out a green sock puppet and started having a conversation. What the **** are you guys doing? __________________

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