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Old 05-02-2019, 02:38 PM   #76 (permalink)
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6-14 (42%) from the field and 0-1 from the line but yeah, let's go with your efficient thing.
I'm writing this as I do the number crunching, but let's look at his stats for the season using data from the UVM website roster. https://bit.ly/2V7W5Xg

Stef took 344 total shots this season.

177 were 2pa and 167 were 3pa. In proportion terms, 51.5% of Stef's shots were from two and 48.5% were from three.

This season Stef made 62 of his 167 3pa, good for 37.1%. Additionally, he made 78 of his 177 2pa, good for 44.1%.

Now, as someone who takes a lot of 3pa, this will naturally make your overall shooting percentage much lower. In these situations, it's ideal to look at efg percentage to weight the added bonus of taking a 3pa.

Citing Basketball reference, the NBA league average for efg is 52.4%.
https://bit.ly/2PFrYkb

The formula is pretty easy. (2pt fgm+1.5* 3pt fgm)/total fga. Stef ends up with (78+1.5*62)/344=49.7% on the season.

In the specific FSU game, Stef had five 3pa and made three. He also had nine 2pa and made three. (3+1.5*3)/14=53.6% Although poor two-point shooting was evident, he still had a perfectly fine shooting night.

Evidently, Stef is not an inefficient shooter, and I want to use some numbers to try and dispell that. He's shooting slightly under the NBA average with almost 50% of his attempts from 3.

I'll let you decide how to interpret this though.
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I'm writing this as I do the number crunching, but let's look at his stats for the season using data from the UVM website roster. https://bit.ly/2V7W5Xg

Stef took 344 total shots this season.

177 were 2pa and 167 were 3pa. In proportion terms, 51.5% of Stef's shots were from two and 48.5% were from three.

This season Stef made 62 of his 167 3pa, good for 37.1%. Additionally, he made 78 of his 177 2pa, good for 44.1%.

Now, as someone who takes a lot of 3pa, this will naturally make your overall shooting percentage much lower. In these situations, it's ideal to look at efg percentage to weight the added bonus of taking a 3pa.

Citing Basketball reference, the NBA league average for efg is 52.4%.
https://bit.ly/2PFrYkb

The formula is pretty easy. (2pt fgm+1.5* 3pt fgm)/total fga. Stef ends up with (78+1.5*62)/344=49.7% on the season.

In the specific FSU game, Stef had five 3pa and made three. He also had nine 2pa and made three. (3+1.5*3)/14=53.6% Although poor two-point shooting was evident, he still had a perfectly fine shooting night.

Evidently, Stef is not an inefficient shooter, and I want to use some numbers to try and dispell that. He's shooting slightly under the NBA average with almost 50% of his attempts from 3.

I'll let you decide how to interpret this though.
Actually curious to see how Stef's 2's are broken down w/r/t distance. feel like he takes the most long 2's of anyone on the roster
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Actually curious to see how Stef's 2's are broken down w/r/t distance. feel like he takes the most long 2's of anyone on the roster
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I think Stef is a top 5 talent perimeter player in the conference, but consistency and decision making has been his two areas to improve on. He does that and he has all-conference ability.

He can drive by defenders in this conference with ease and he is pretty strong as well.
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I think Stef is a top 5 talent perimeter player in the conference, but consistency and decision making has been his two areas to improve on. He does that and he has all-conference ability.

He can drive by defenders in this conference with ease and he is pretty strong as well.
Absolutely.

Shot selection and assists. I haven't looked at the numbers, but it feels like he plays and prefers iso ball.
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When is the last time UVM had three perimeter defenders as good as Robin, Stef and Shungu?
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When is the last time UVM had three perimeter defenders as good as Robin, Stef and Shungu?
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Sorrentine, Hehn and Mopa-Ngila?
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Absolutely.

Shot selection and assists. I haven't looked at the numbers, but it feels like he plays and prefers iso ball.
He's really more of a scoring guard than playmaker. I think the emergence of Shungu is a win-win for both Shungu and Smith- Ben can play his natural position and Smith can play off the ball on the wing.
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I think if Stef as a combo guard, can play the 1 or 2, but better as a 2
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Smith has certainly made some nice passes and clever plays, but I would prefer him at the 2 to maximize his scoring opportunities.
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With Giddens on board, UVM has amazing depth:

Giddens, Lamb, Moll and Davis in the frontcourt,
Everett on the wing/at the 2,
Robin, Stef and Shungu in the backcourt

...that does not include Patella and the two frosh. And if Nash can get healthy...

it will be tough to find space in the rotation for 10, let alone 12.

I wonder if any will redshirt. Thoughts?
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I'm not sure who would redshirt, but we've almost got a full team of walk-ons, too!
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With Giddens on board, UVM has amazing depth:

Giddens, Lamb, Moll and Davis in the frontcourt,
Everett on the wing/at the 2,
Robin, Stef and Shungu in the backcourt

...that does not include Patella and the two frosh. And if Nash can get healthy...

it will be tough to find space in the rotation for 10, let alone 12.

I wonder if any will redshirt. Thoughts?
I don't see Nash getting much time, due to the injury and being away from competitive ball for two years. He will need a year to readjust.
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