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Old 06-08-2018, 04:39 PM   #91 (permalink)
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What are your 10 chosen programs from that group of conferences, JP?
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Interesting read on the CUSA and Sun Belt scheduling changes. I'm curious to see what the "next step" is regarding non-con scheduling.

https://deadspin.com/a-college-baske...o-b-1826990796
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Interesting read on the CUSA and Sun Belt scheduling changes. I'm curious to see what the "next step" is regarding non-con scheduling.

https://deadspin.com/a-college-baske...o-b-1826990796
It is a tough sell because of the money being tossed around, but the best non-P5 programs (say... top 100-150) should band together and refuse to be bought by the P5. Either play H/H series, on neutral courts, in tournaments, or not at all. We need to limit the quality RPI'd cannon fodder for the football schools, and then wisely schedule one another. Create more Q1 games for the non-P5 (a la Bona-Vermont/Bucknell or the recently finalized St. Joe's-Loyola Chicago series) while disallowing the "power" conferences to benefit from simply purchasing games at their facilities and with their officials.
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I think we've all been around long enough to know that the "committee" for what it's worth is going to adapt to anything and everything the mid-major conferences throw at them in effort to bust the cartel.

We've already seen in 2016 where our upper tier wins were essentially disregarded because they came against conference opponents, and the knock was we didn't beat anyone OOC. So pitting your top performers against each other in the conference slate won't necessarily make any of those teams more attractive either as a slection or as a seed.

And Bill, refusing to play the P5/6 unless they sign on for H&H or neutral returns might backfire in that you're better off in the eyes of the committee to at least play those schools, even as a buy or as a one and done, than to not play them at all. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the power conferences said "the mid-majors didn't like the rules so they took their ball and went home." And it will be held against us.

I think we have to realize the competitive imbalance is going to remain. The selection process is not published and is fluid, so you have a moving target (at best) let alone having an actual target to shoot for. They adjust to get the big schools in, and give them the seeds, regardless of anything we can do. So what we need is external criteria, such as the win % requirement (.500+ in conference for consideration) or a conference cap (50% or max of 6 teams from a conference). And even those won't be popular or probably ever get implemented.

And the field should be set prior to the conference tourneys and you can make a big production of "elimination week", like pole day at Indy 500. Bid stealing bonanza, watch teams get eliminated on the S-curve when lower seeds upset for conference titles. You have a true NCAA Tournament "First week" so to speak, where everyone has a chance to get in and you know where you stand and what you need to do.
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And the field should be set prior to the conference tourneys and you can make a big production of "elimination week", like pole day at Indy 500. Bid stealing bonanza, watch teams get eliminated on the S-curve when lower seeds upset for conference titles. You have a true NCAA Tournament "First week" so to speak, where everyone has a chance to get in and you know where you stand and what you need to do.[/QUOTE]

That last paragraph needs to be repeated. One area that the P5 exploit so often is picking up "quality" wins during the conference tournament which push the mid-majors off the bubble. We establish the top 68 at large teams in advance of the conference tournament, the only way someone outside of this list gets in is by winning their tournament, and the lowest ranked team drops out. This not only makes the process transparent, but I think would add a ton of drama to all of the conference tournaments by teams knowing exactly what they had to do and who might knock them off. Imagine how much viewership the A10 Championship game gets when everyone knows that if Davidson wins, Notre Dame gets the boot.

Of course, this makes too much sense and would potentially result in P5 getting fewer bids so it wont happen.
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* Going to split the media $ equally but feel there must be some variation if you are on ESPN etc or not.

This year if you take the media and the share of 25% pool it equals 1/2 Million per team.


2014: 10 (Dayton 4, Saint Louis 2, St Joe's 1, VCU 1, UMass 1, GW 1)
2015: 5 (Dayton 3, VCU 1, Davidson 1)
2016: 5 (Dayton 1, VCU 2, St Joe's 2)
2017: 4 (Dayton 1, VCU 1, URI 2)
2018: 5 (URI 2, SBU 2, Davidson 1)
2019: 2 (VCU 1 and St Louis 1)
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31 credits

I used $257,807 per unit, the 75/25 split and the 25 was split by the teams that did not make it. about 8 M for the conference (7,992,017).

Code:
Team	Credits	Earned 	Receive		  Remainder A10 Pool
Dayton	9	$2,320,263	$1,740,197.25	$580,065.75
VCU	6	$1,546,842	$1,160,131.50	$386,710.50
URI	4	$1,031,228	$  773,421.00   $257,807.00
SLU	3	$  773,415	$  580,065.75	$193,349.25
St Joes	3	$  773,415	$  580,065.75	$193,349.25
St Bona	2	$  515,614	$  386,710.50	$128,903.50
Davidson2	$  515,614	$  386,710.50	$128,903.50
GW	1	$  257,807	$  193,355.25	$ 64,451.75
Umass	1	$  257,807	$  193,355.25	$ 64,451.75
La Salle0	$0.00
Duquesne0	$0.00		
Fordham	0	$0.00		
Richmond0	$0.00		
G Mason 0	$0.00		
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                                 A10 Pool Total $1,997,992.75
Every team receives a cut of the 25% pool or $142,713.77
Every team receives a cust of the 5M Media * $357,142.86
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