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Old 12-23-2018, 02:37 PM   #136 (permalink)
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But for the record, not one team in this league should have a blue circle at this point.
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Old 12-29-2018, 01:45 PM   #137 (permalink)
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Chase Johnson announced his transfer out of Florida the other day. He’s at the Dayton game today. Highly recruited out of HS as a solid 4 star player.
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Dayton goes to 3-0 in this 6 game stretch. Ga. Southern came in and made about everything they threw at the basket in the second half to include a shot that I would take in my drive way playing HORSE...and he made it.

94-90 is the final. Obi Toppin broke Twitter with a between the legs dunk on a fast break. He finished with 22. I'll let Jaffie post the video.

Bleacher Report picked up the video of it and its gone viral.....but I think a better play by Obi was at the end of the first half when Obi missed a short jump shot from the side but grabbed it in mid air with one hand and flushed it home.
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Anthony Grant on Obi Toppin's dunk: "A little risque for my tastes but not very many people on this earth can make that play."
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Anthony Grant on Obi Toppin's dunk: "A little risque for my tastes but not very many people on this earth can make that play."
At least show the dunk.
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I think Grant was talking to him at the next stoppage and basically giving him the same speech as the Indians manager in Major League after Willie Mays Hayes basket catch.

"Nice dunk Obi. Dont ever f___'in do it again."
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Old 12-29-2018, 07:05 PM   #142 (permalink)
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At least show the dunk.
Highlights from todayís game for all of you closet Flyer Faithful ...


Check out Obi at the 1:52 mark ... maybe more impressive than the between the legs dunk
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https://youtu.be/oU_JDSiz0Qo

Check out Obi at the 1:52 mark ... maybe more impressive than the between the legs dunk
I am far from a closet Flyer faithful but I do know the competition that my team has to face. I have watched a bunch of UD games. Toppin and Cunningham can be a real problem if the Dayton guards can play under control and work the ball inside/out. Sometimes the guards forget about them and freelance too much. If I have those two down low I am setting picks and working the roll among other things to get them the ball.
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What happened to the Fire Grant crowd?
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What happened to the Fire Grant crowd?
For those who never got past 3rd grade reading class.....

Dayton is playing a 6 game stretch that even if I were coaching should go 6-0 in. This does nothing for Grant or the team as far as an NCAA bid goes. Dayton, by not beating MSU at home and winning one other game (Tulsa, OK, or VA) will not get an at large bid this year.

Grant had brain farts in yesterday's game again. Ga Southern going on a huge run in the second half....no time out. Like one guy said on Twitter, its like he's saving his timeouts for a year end bonus. We've seen this in multiple games this year.

And then the elephant in the room was no Obi or Cunningham in the game for the final 2 minutes of the game. Now, the counter to that is, "Well, Dayton won a close game with who Grant had in there". Fine, but I don't know of too many coaches who would have BOTH of them on the bench in a 2 point game with 90-120 seconds left in the game. It's not like he put 90 percent FT shooters in there for them.

Finally, Obi has to see more minutes. 20 minutes?!!! Are you kidding me Grant?? Mikesell played 28!!!!

Obi 20 min 9-10, 22 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 0 turnovers

Mikesell 28 min 2-6, 5 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 turnovers

Mikesell had probably the worst 6 minute stretch to start a game yesterday that I've ever seen from a DAyton player. I'm not anti Mikesell.....he has to play some because we have 7 players but if anyone should be getting the 28 minutes it should be Obi. At the pace he was on he would have scored 30-32 points.

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For those who never got past 3rd grade reading class.....

Dayton is playing a 6 game stretch that even if I were coaching should go 6-0 in. This does nothing for Grant or the team as far as an NCAA bid goes. Dayton, by not beating MSU at home and winning one other game (Tulsa, OK, or VA) will not get an at large bid this year.

Grant had brain farts in yesterday's game again. Ga Southern going on a huge run in the second half....no time out. Like one guy said on Twitter, its like he's saving his timeouts for a year end bonus. We've seen this in multiple games this year.

And then the elephant in the room was no Obi or Cunningham in the game for the final 2 minutes of the game. Now, the counter to that is, "Well, Dayton won a close game with who Grant had in there". Fine, but I don't know of too many coaches who would have BOTH of them on the bench in a 2 point game with 90-120 seconds left in the game. It's not like he put 90 percent FT shooters in there for them.

Finally, Obi has to see more minutes. 20 minutes?!!! Are you kidding me Grant?? Mikesell played 28!!!!

Obi 20 min 9-10, 22 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 0 turnovers

Mikesell 28 min 2-6, 5 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 turnovers

Mikesell had probably the worst 6 minute stretch to start a game yesterday that I've ever seen from a DAyton player. I'm not anti Mikesell.....he has to play some because we have 7 players but if anyone should be getting the 28 minutes it should be Obi. At the pace he was on he would have scored 30-32 points.
I questioned the Davis, Cohill, Crutcher, Landers and Mikesell line up too. In defense of Grant he used all of his timeouts yesterday and couldnít stop the clock to substitute offense defense.

Obi still plays like a freshman especially on the defensive side of the ball. It seems that he is starting to develop a more rounded offensive game - putting the ball on the floor and a little baby hook.

Georgia Southern was probably the Best Buy game in our OOC and I would be surprised if they donít win the Sunbelt
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Finally, Obi has to see more minutes. 20 minutes?!!! Are you kidding me Grant?? Mikesell played 28!!!!

Obi 20 min 9-10, 22 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 0 turnovers

Mikesell 28 min 2-6, 5 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 turnovers
Mikesell had the highest +/- at +7 and Obi had the lowest at -3.

Mikesell is not great at any one thing, but he is very good at many things.
Obi is flashy and his dunks get a lot of attention, but he has a lot to learn about other phases of the game.

I am a big Obi fan, but I don’t share your view that AG is making a big mistake by not taking away Mikesell minutes to increase Obi’s minutes.

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For those who never got past 3rd grade reading class.....
Ouch. So much for a little humor. The conference season must have already started.
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[QUOTE=frisco flyer;15287343]Mikesell had the highest +/- at +7 and Obi had the lowest at -3.

Mikesell is not great at any one thing, but he is very good at many things.


Dr. G was doing the color commentary of the game, and the bolded statement is almost verbatim what he said.

Mikesell also seemed to be the guy they threw the ball to beat the press and get it over midcourt.
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Again, I'm not anit Mikesell at all. He has to play. But again, those first 6 minutes were awful...if you don't believe me, go back and look.

But +/- stats are very deceiving. Mikesell played a ton in the first half when Dayton built a double digit lead so his +/- was really good then. He started the second half with a wide open 3 that he air balled. He went 1-5 from 3. He's 1 for his last 14 from 3. He's looked terrible the last 4 games. I can assure you, I never look at +/- stats and neither do most people...they never tell the whole story. A walk on can get in a game in a blow out and if the blow out continues they leave with a gaudy +/- line when they didn't do squat for their team. Your +/- line can literally be the same just by standing on the court and doing nothing.

Again, I want Mikesell to do well but right now I don't see where Obi and Mikesell are even in the same sentence at this point in the year. One is only getting better and better with more court time while the other seems to digress each game. Yes, I agree with Jaffie that Obi needs to work on some things out there but his upside is huge. Mikesell will never create the mismatch that Obi does with most teams that Dayton will play.
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