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Old 01-10-2019, 10:24 AM   #31 (permalink)
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So how hot is the seat?
I keep hearing different things. My guess? Very warm.
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But it should be red hot. Or not even anything because he should be gone. He should have been gone in 2011. The program is dying before everyone's eyes. We're choking ourselves to death with our own ineptitude.
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I don’t know the inner politics at SJ’s but I suspect that Phil will be around next year. All institutions suffer from the inability to make decisions and are hampered by board approval processes. I bet that Phil has more political capital than the new AD.
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I donít know the inner politics at SJís but I suspect that Phil will be around next year. All institutions suffer from the inability to make decisions and are hampered by board approval processes. I bet that Phil has more political capital than the new AD.
From what I hear, the board won't be making the decision--the President and AD will be.
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From what I hear, the board won't be making the decision--the President and AD will be.
Phil is what 63? If what you say is true (Iím not doubting you) about body language etc he probably needs to step down and the University should make him an Assistant AD or something along those lines. He has lost his team.
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Phil is what 63? If what you say is true (I’m not doubting you) about body language etc he probably needs to step down and the University should make him an Assistant AD or something along those lines. He has lost his team.
Phil cannot be part of SJU in a formal role anymore. He just can't. I like him but everyone needs to have their professional lives severed from each other. I don't want him to banned from campus. I just dont want him in a coach or Athletics position anymore. It needs to be clean. No entanglements.

And the chemistry is truly awful. If the rumors are true, it's amazing that transfers haven't even been announced yet. Nobody wants to play together and everyone on the staff has lost control. It has to end.

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Phil cannot be part of SJU in a formal role anymore. He just can't. I like him but everyone needs to have their professional lives severed from each other. I don't want him to banned from campus. I just dont want him in a coach or Athletics position anymore. It needs to be clean. No entanglements.

And the chemistry is truly awful. If the rumors are true, it's amazing that transfers haven't even been announced yet. Nobody wants to play together and everyone on the staff has lost control. It has to end.
Phil has been involved with SJU since 1985? Give him some dignity. Heís done a lot for the University. His time has run out.
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Phil has been involved with SJU since 1985? Give him some dignity. Heís done a lot for the University. His time has run out.
Yes that's correct. And yes he's done a lot. He's also gotten paid a lot. Come on.
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I'm confident that if the shoe was on the other foot, the UD fans would not get caught up in "dignity." You included, JAF.
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I've always been a fan of SJU and Martelli despite the fiasco that occurred in Olean back in 2004. I usually root for them when they aren't play SBU, but man, they haven't been able to string together consecutive solid seasons in a while it seems.

It'd be weird not seeing Martelli on the sidelines with SJU, but I have to imagine they could get a very good coach to come in and take over if it comes to that.

SJUHawk, any popular names amongst SJU fans for a future HC?
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I've always been a fan of SJU and Martelli despite the fiasco that occurred in Olean back in 2004. I usually root for them when they aren't play SBU, but man, they haven't been able to string together consecutive solid seasons in a while it seems.

It'd be weird not seeing Martelli on the sidelines with SJU, but I have to imagine they could get a very good coach to come in and take over if it comes to that.

SJUHawk, any popular names amongst SJU fans for a future HC?
Jameer Nelson.

And it's not far fetched from what the grapevine has said...
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I'm confident that if the shoe was on the other foot, the UD fans would not get caught up in "dignity." You included, JAF.
It’s been a a long time since Don Donoher was fired at UD. Very similar to Phil. Great character and still a supporter of the University. I wasn’t happy with the way his firing was handled. There really hasn’t been anything close at UD since. You shouldn’t be so quick to jump to conclusions. People that spend half of their lives at one job deserve respect.
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It’s been a a long time since Don Donoher was fired at UD. Very similar to Phil. Great character and still a supporter of the University. I wasn’t happy with the way his firing was handled. There really hasn’t been anything close at UD since. You shouldn’t be so quick to jump to conclusions. People that spend half of their lives at one job deserve respect.
Today, in 2019, I'm positive that Flyer Faithful wouldn't afford a single second to whatever dignity means here.

What do you think is most dignified? Letting the coach leave when they want? That's just so not based in the reality of the real world, where people who get paid a lot less than a cool mil a year and work at the same place for decades get pink slipped by a bean counter on a whim.
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Today, in 2019, I'm positive that Flyer Faithful wouldn't afford a single second to whatever dignity means here.

What do you think is most dignified? Letting the coach leave when they want? That's just so not based in the reality of the real world, where people who get paid a lot less than a cool mil a year and work at the same place for decades get pink slipped by a bean counter on a whim.
You said he shouldn’t have any role at St. Joe’s not me. That’s where we disagree. Give him a soft landing. That doesn’t mean that I think that a change isn’t needed.
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You said he shouldnít have any role at St. Joeís not me. Thatís where we disagree. Give him a soft landing. That doesnít mean that I think that a change isnít needed.
People who make millions don't need a soft landing. I think you're greatly underestimating the lack of dignity there is in even offering such a position.
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