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Old 08-26-2019, 04:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think of P5 as applying to football.
The AAC made an effort (with football) to be in a new group called the P6.
I don't think that's going real well for them.

I looked at the at-large NCAA bids for schools outside the P5. I think (don't remember exactly) that it has been roughly the same number for the last few years.

For example, last year was the first NET year, and there were 10 non-P5 at large bids.
In 2018 with the old RPI, there were also 10.
In 2017, there were 10.

The BE is getting a fair number of the 10.
This doesn't mean JP's point is wrong though. Many of the P5's that sneak in under the wire don't deserve the bid that should have gone to a non P5.
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I am seeing some OOC schedules that are not helping matters.
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So am I. We arenít happy about it.
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This goes back and forth every season when it comes to OOC and SOS. People have varying opinions on the subject. It is not just Bona who I was suggesting did not look toward a challenging schedule. It hurts them though especially with how the A10 screwed them with match-ups. I know that Duquesne is not able to play home games at Palumbo but I do not see any true away games on their schedule. It is up to each coach how they go about it so I guess I should worry about my front porch not my neighbor's house but it does creep over into my yard.
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Hey kids...get off my lawn!

I can't find our complete OOC schedule. It's suppose to be out in August, so not much time left. Maybe it's just well hidden.
But...we are playing a P5 in a true road game, and have one coming to Robins.
So, take that.
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Hey kids...get off my lawn!

I can't find our complete OOC schedule. It's suppose to be out in August, so not much time left. Maybe it's just well hidden.
But...we are playing a P5 in a true road game, and have one coming to Robins.
So, take that.
Well, I'm not suppose to give this to you before I give it to the Athletic Department, but...

11/8/19 St. Francis PA
11/14/19 Vanderbilt
11/17/19 Cal St. Northridge
11/22/19 McNeese St
11/25/19 Wisconsin at Barclays Brooklyn, NY
11/26/19 Auburn/New Mexico at Barclays Brooklyn, NY
11/30/19 Boston College
12/3/19 AT Hampton
12/8/19 South Alabama
12/14/19 College of Charleston
12/18/19 AT Old Dominion
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Well, I'm not suppose to give this to you before I give it to the Athletic Department, but...

11/8/19 St. Francis PA
11/14/19 Vanderbilt
11/17/19 Cal St. Northridge
11/22/19 McNeese St
11/25/19 Wisconsin at Barclays Brooklyn, NY
11/26/19 Auburn/New Mexico at Barclays Brooklyn, NY
11/30/19 Boston College
12/3/19 AT Hampton
12/8/19 South Alabama
12/14/19 College of Charleston
12/18/19 AT Old Dominion
12/22/19 Radford in Anacostia, DC
12/29/19 AT Alabama
Seems like a good ooc to me. Hopefully, the Spiders can weave a web around some of those P5 schools and avoid getting squished by the likes of Hampton, St. Francis etc.
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With 3 true road games (1 a P5) and 2 P5's coming to the Robins, maybe this Joey dude from St Joe's is earning his keep. Of course we need to win some of these games.
Meanwhile, maybe some other teams could use him to amp their OOC.
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Well, I'm not suppose to give this to you before I give it to the Athletic Department, but...

11/8/19 St. Francis PA
11/14/19 Vanderbilt
11/17/19 Cal St. Northridge
11/22/19 McNeese St
11/25/19 Wisconsin at Barclays Brooklyn, NY
11/26/19 Auburn/New Mexico at Barclays Brooklyn, NY
11/30/19 Boston College
12/3/19 AT Hampton
12/8/19 South Alabama
12/14/19 College of Charleston
12/18/19 AT Old Dominion
12/22/19 Radford in Anacostia, DC
12/29/19 AT Alabama
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I think of P5 as applying to football.
The AAC made an effort (with football) to be in a new group called the P6.
I don't think that's going real well for them.

I looked at the at-large NCAA bids for schools outside the P5. I think (don't remember exactly) that it has been roughly the same number for the last few years.

For example, last year was the first NET year, and there were 10 non-P5 at large bids.
In 2018 with the old RPI, there were also 10.
In 2017, there were 10.

The BE is getting a fair number of the 10.
This doesn't mean JP's point is wrong though. Many of the P5's that sneak in under the wire don't deserve the bid that should have gone to a non P5.
That's why I still say BCS.

The old BCS six conferences were the P5, and the old Big East, which is now the New Big East AND the American.


2019 (4) VCU, Belmont, Gonzaga, Nevada
2018 (3) Nevada, St Bona, Rhody
2017 (3) St Mary's, VCU, Dayton,
2016 (3) Wichita St, VCU, Dayton; St Bona oh wait we got fucked

3.25 per year. 13 Total: A10 7, MWC 2, WCC 2, MVC 1, OVC 1


Compare that to:

2013 (11) VCU, San Diego St, Wichita St, Boise St, LaSalle, UNLV, Butler, Temple, Colorado St, Middle Tenn, St Mary's

2012 (11) SLU, Temple, Xavier, So Miss, Iona, Wichita St, Colorado St, San Diego St, UNLV, BYU, Gonzaga
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Re: Mid Major

If you want to know why college basketball is getting worse, it's because the NCAA has no power and the conferences have all the power; and those with big TV deals have ALL the power.


The 2019 NCAA Tournament field has 32 conferences represented.

31 P5 - ACC (7), Big 12 (6), Big Ten (8), SEC (7), Pac-12 (3)
39 BCS - Big East 4, American 4
6 major - A-10 2, WCC 2, MWC 2
2 mid-major - OVC 2
21 one-bid

So, 4 two-bid conferences, 21 one-bid conferences and seven 4+ bid conferences.


The same 68 teams that made the 2019 NCAA field and their membership 20 years ago in 1999:

28 P5 - ACC (5), Big 12 (6), Big Ten (7), SEC (7), Pac 10 (3)
11 Major - Big East (4), CUSA (5), A-10 (2)
10 Mid-Major - CAA (2), Big West (2), Big South (2), ASun (2), Am East (2)
19 One-Bid
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