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Old 02-18-2008, 02:01 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 02-18-2008, 04:10 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Kidd deal back on. Hassell and KVH in.

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kevin mchale gets a lot of slack for that trade, but he got a GREAT young big back in a deal, who he can build the franchise around. not a lot is made of the fact that Al Jefferson is one of 5 guys averaging 20 and 10 (21 and 12 in his case). he also got expiring contracts and good young players like gomes and young potential guys like green (i hate him though). what should he have gotten? an all-star? people don't usually trade all-stars...and if they do, they're AI or VC type all-stars...not guys to build your team around. i think the KG trade was a good one both ways.
So 20 and 10 on a lottery team is "GREAT"? He's a good player on a bad team.
Gomes is ok as long as he comes off the bench, Green is a high flyer with no substance.

Boston has a shot at the title the Wolves are garbage.

KG was MVP on the Wolves but McHale never surrounded him with talent.
He's a bad GM he should have been fired years ago.
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Re: Kidd deal back on. Hassell and KVH in.

Kevin Garnett from the Minnesota Timberwolves in exchange for Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Sebastian Telfair, a 2009 first round draft pick (top three protected) and a return of Minnesota's conditional first round draft pick previously obtained in the Ricky Davis-Wally Szczerbiak trade. Minnesota also receives cash considerations in the deal.


That was a great deal for Minnesota. Ryan Gomes is solid, Jefferson is doing amazing. Theo Ratliff is expiring soon. Telfair is a legit backup point guard for Foye. And picks. Minny gets back its own pick, and seeing how bad theyre doing, itll be a good one. Minnesota gets everything they want to prepare for the future since they werent winning now anyway. This was one of Mchales good moves I think.

Anyway, back to kidd
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So 20 and 10 on a lottery team is "GREAT"? He's a good player on a bad team.
Gomes is ok as long as he comes off the bench, Green is a high flyer with no substance.

Boston has a shot at the title the Wolves are garbage.

KG was MVP on the Wolves but McHale never surrounded him with talent.
He's a bad GM he should have been fired years ago.
TWolves were garbage with KG.

TWolves made a great trade for Garnett. Jefferson, Gomes, Theo (capspace) and two 1st round picks.

Possibly McHale's finest moment.
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Re: Kidd deal back on. Hassell and KVH in.

NOW it's up to KVH: http://netsdaily.com/ This trade is crazy, how many road bumps are these two teams going to hit?
I do find it pretty funny that the Nets are now trading Kidd and getting back KVH. I doubt they saw themselves in this situation four or five years ago!
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Re: Kidd deal back on. Hassell and KVH in.

This guy had a great; not on a bad team great MVP great; talent and screwed it up.
KG was classy in not asking for a trade years ago.
McHale was a very good player but a horrible GM.

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Kevin Garnett from the Minnesota Timberwolves in exchange for Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Sebastian Telfair, a 2009 first round draft pick (top three protected) and a return of Minnesota's conditional first round draft pick previously obtained in the Ricky Davis-Wally Szczerbiak trade. Minnesota also receives cash considerations in the deal.

Sorry for going off topic.


That was a great deal for Minnesota. Ryan Gomes is solid, Jefferson is doing amazing. Theo Ratliff is expiring soon. Telfair is a legit backup point guard for Foye. And picks. Minny gets back its own pick, and seeing how bad theyre doing, itll be a good one. Minnesota gets everything they want to prepare for the future since they werent winning now anyway. This was one of Mchales good moves I think.

I haven't seen Minnesota enough this year to comment on Gomes.
Foye was injured this year he'd be a good backup, don't care for Telfair's style.
Guess it all depends what McHale does with the draft picks and if he can get any good free agents.
I'm sceptical because of his track record.

Sorry for going off topic.
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Re: Kidd deal back on. Hassell and KVH in.

Foye would be starting on the Twolves.
And Gomes has been doing really good. Been clutchish at times too. But anyway, I agree, it does depend on if McHale can capitalize on those picks.

Anyway, I'm eager to see the crowd's reaction to Van Horn's first game if he stays with Nets and is actually traded.
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So 20 and 10 on a lottery team is "GREAT"? He's a good player on a bad team.
Gomes is ok as long as he comes off the bench, Green is a high flyer with no substance.

Boston has a shot at the title the Wolves are garbage.

KG was MVP on the Wolves but McHale never surrounded him with talent.
He's a bad GM he should have been fired years ago.
no...I just think he's a great young player. i think he's going to be the face of that franchise and he's a player they can build around. what KG has done for the celtics isn't relevant to how good a trade it was for the wolves. not saying McHale is a good gm...trading Roy was as stupid as it gets...just saying I think he got a good deal for KG.
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no...I just think he's a great young player. i think he's going to be the face of that franchise and he's a player they can build around. what KG has done for the celtics isn't relevant to how good a trade it was for the wolves. not saying McHale is a good gm...trading Roy was as stupid as it gets...just saying I think he got a good deal for KG.
Fair enough.
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Re: Kidd deal back on. Hassell and KVH in.

back on topic...KVH has apparently agreed to sign a 4 million dollar deal with Dallas (or the nets or whatever)

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...ort=NBA&id=463
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Re: Kidd deal back on. Hassell and KVH in.

Seems like the deal is official now.

http://blog.nj.com/netsblast/2008/02/done_deal.html
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