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Old 11-04-2004, 02:10 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Good lord, you people who are complaining and obviously don't really like Jamal realize that you actually had to go out of your own way by deciding to click, read this update of Jamal's progress by good ole MichaelOFaz, take some more time just to say how much you dislike his style of posting, and you're complaining about how he's wasting your time ?

You guys post on a message boards ! You don't have anything better to do !

Me personally, I saw the thread "Crawford Update", and to my amazement I saw an update on Jamal Crawford. I came in and got what I expected. I don't know about you guys.
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I am a sometimes Knicks fan now i live in washington and watched most of the game (80%) last night. First JC had a great first quarter and was really lighting it up. He scored 8 pts (i think) on 4 for 5 shotting. In the last 3 quarters he was 6 for 18? He missed his last 5 shots of the 4th quarter. 10 for 23 total and no FT thro he did go to the hope a couple of times. He toke 8 more shots than any other player and 4 more shots than the knicks starting front court. In the first quarter he really did look great, under control, and was even playing good D but as he shot and his shot selection started going down so did his D.

As for the SG match up he played mostly against Spree and Freddy Hiolberg and they were a combined 7 for 13 on FG and scored a total of 19 points on 10 less shots.

So, and stop the i hate JC stuff, JC game last night was pretty much what we saw last year. Up and down on O (great first quarter and good first half, awful second half) and still working on his D. I did think he matches up well with Marbury and i also hope he develops some thick skin because the NY press is going to be a lot tougher that here in chicago.

One last thing, the biggest surprise of the night was the play of Trevor Ariza. He looked great and i think will get a lot of time at both SG and SF. His D was super and really hustles.

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I am a sometimes Knicks fan now i live in washington and watched most of the game (80%) last night. First JC had a great first quarter and was really lighting it up. He scored 8 pts (i think) on 4 for 5 shotting. In the last 3 quarters he was 6 for 18? He missed his last 5 shots of the 4th quarter. 10 for 23 total and no FT thro he did go to the hope a couple of times. He toke 8 more shots than any other player and 4 more shots than the knicks starting front court. In the first quarter he really did look great, under control, and was even playing good D but as he shot and his shot selection started going down so did his D.

As for the SG match up he played mostly against Spree and Freddy Hiolberg and they were a combined 7 for 13 on FG and scored a total of 19 points on 10 less shots.

So, and stop the i hate JC stuff, JC game last night was pretty much what we saw last year. Up and down on O (great first quarter and good first half, awful second half) and still working on his D. I did think he matches up well with Marbury and i also hope he develops some thick skin because the NY press is going to be a lot tougher that here in chicago.

One last thing, the biggest surprise of the night was the play of Trevor Ariza. He looked great and i think will get a lot of time at both SG and SF. His D was super and really hustles.

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i agree with you on alot of what you wrote JC played great in the 1st half and not that well in the 2nd .

his defense was good on the ball and bad off of it , garnett was just killing everyone and JC kept doubling him ...and garnett found hoiberg a few times for 3's but his on the ball defense was pretty good though sprewell was held pretty much in check . 10 points in nearly 30 min. is not a good game for him.

ariza was very good , he has been clearly exceptional ever since the knicks drafted him , if he could shoot at all he'd be their starting 3 .
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Re: Crawford Update

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As promised, I am back to post the line of Jamal Crawford for those of you who may not be aware.

Based on the box score, JC appears to have a decent night, but nothing spectacular.

JC scored 22 points and was 10 for 23 from the field (for a respectable .433 FG%) and was 2-4 from 3-pt land. As an off guard he chipped in with 3 rebs, 3 assists, 3 steals, and 1 block and didn't have any TOs.

He appears to have held his own on D too, holding Spreewell to 11 points in 39 combined minutes.

Unfortunately stats don't mean a lot when your team loses, but losing by 6 to the Western Conference semi-finalists is nothing to be ashamed of.
The question is and always will be...under the Bulls current circumstances....Paxson not being allowed to go into luxury tax...could the Bulls have kept him and the two bigs? If not, then which big should have been shipped to keep JC?

The bottom line here is, wishy-washy, it would have been great to be able to pay JC what he wanted, but Pax couldn't b/c JR(Pax's boss) would not allow it. So keep your stats about JC unless you have found a way to get this stinkin' ownership team to either change philosophy, or sell the team.

I think everyone on this board knows JC has talent.
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i agree with you on alot of what you wrote JC played great in the 1st half and not that well in the 2nd .

his defense was good on the ball and bad off of it , garnett was just killing everyone and JC kept doubling him ...and garnett found hoiberg a few times for 3's but his on the ball defense was pretty good though sprewell was held pretty much in check . 10 points in nearly 30 min. is not a good game for him.

ariza was very good , he has been clearly exceptional ever since the knicks drafted him , if he could shoot at all he'd be their starting 3 .
OT, but I can anyone else see Tommy Smith playing like Ariza?
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Everyone is praising Jamal for these stats but did you notice these things.(oh, I didn't read giusd's post until after I wrote this, this is the same Jamal we had but with a slightly above average shooting night.))

No Free Throw Attempts

He took more shoots than he scored points.

His team lost.

His shooting average is ussually 10/25 or 40%, so his 10/23 43% is a step up that I really doubt continues.

And how about JYD getting no PT
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Originally posted by <b>Hustle</b>!
Everyone is praising Jamal for these stats but did you notice these things.(oh, I didn't read giusd's post until after I wrote this, this is the same Jamal we had but with a slightly above average shooting night.))

No Free Throw Attempts

He took more shoots than he scored points.

His team lost.

His shooting average is ussually 10/25 or 40%, so his 10/23 43% is a step up that I really doubt continues.

And how about JYD getting no PT
Jamal looked incredible last night. He did peter out towards the end but he was one of the main reasons NY gave powerhouse Minny such a tough game in the first place. ANyone who watched the game...with an unbiased eye will tell you Crawford played extremely well. He blocked one of Cassells shots, he defended KG on one possession and made him miss! He had 3 steals, he was en fuego early in the game and did a lot more driving to the hole, he actually embarrassed Sprewell on one drive. His defense appeared much improved. Crawford played exceedingly well. His shot selection could have perhaps been a little better and he needs to play this way consistently for NY to play well but he looked head and shoulders above anyone last night not named Marbury, KG, or Cassell.
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Jamal played great last night. Anyone who argues with that is totally clueless. Nitpick all you want. but he outplayed his counterpart by 12 pts. Not bad considering his counterpart is Latrell Sprewell
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If he can take 3 less shots per game,and we all know which 3 i am talking about,he will be an All Star talent...

I do have a question...JC said after the game,he needs sto bulk up and will be hittting the weights hard this summer..

Why does it take a trade to NY for him to realize that..Doest the BUlls have a strength and conditioning coach???What do your players do in the off season??
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2 other ex Bulls had better games yesterday then Jamal and their teams won.

I still miss Elton and Crazy Ron but I won't post their numbers.
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If he can take 3 less shots per game,and we all know which 3 i am talking about,he will be an All Star talent...

I do have a question...JC said after the game,he needs sto bulk up and will be hittting the weights hard this summer..

Why does it take a trade to NY for him to realize that..Doest the BUlls have a strength and conditioning coach???What do your players do in the off season??
Maybe he actually *likes* playing for the Knicks. He's happy to be out of the minor leagues and realizes the Knicks want him to be a star. Unlike the Bulls who drafted his replacement nearly every year.

Oh well.

AD hits the weights, that’s for sure.
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2 other ex Bulls had better games yesterday then Jamal and their teams won.

I still miss Elton and Crazy Ron but I won't post their numbers.
They've been gone for a while, and their identities are interlocked with their current teams now. Jamal is still in the process of "getting the Chicago out of him."
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We can simply agree to disagree about his game last night. I think "Jamal looked incredible last night" is not the game i saw. What i saw was he looked incredible for 1 quarter and played a excellent 1st half. His second half was any thing but incrediable. he scored 22 points on 23 shots. He was 6 for 9 the first halg and 4 for 14 the second half. While he did hit a couple of big shot in the 2nd half the game was close and he missed his last 5 shots. If he hits one or two og those NY could have won. Now i am not saying he played bad, i am glad he is gone, or what ever but to say he was incredible last night is just not correct.

KG was incredible. Marbary was incredible. JC had at best an up and down game. As for outplaying Spree whatever. Spree had 10 pts on only 8 shots played great D. Many of JC second Half shot were very poot shot selection and even the announers were saying this. And it wasn't just 3 shots.

JC overall preformence last night at SG was average how can he be called anything else.

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Originally posted by <b>Hustle</b>!
Everyone is praising Jamal for these stats but did you notice these things.(oh, I didn't read giusd's post until after I wrote this, this is the same Jamal we had but with a slightly above average shooting night.))

No Free Throw Attempts

He took more shoots than he scored points.

His team lost.

His shooting average is ussually 10/25 or 40%, so his 10/23 43% is a step up that I really doubt continues.

And how about JYD getting no PT
........and he had a worse shooting % than almost every other Knick who got useful minutes.
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Crawford had a good game.

He's 40th in the NBA right now in EFF out of all players.

His team lost, but they were not favored to beat the mighty TWolves. It was a close game.

Stop the hate.
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