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Old 01-11-2006, 12:06 PM   #3016 (permalink)
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Ace! -- I have not seen the Knick play this year, so I have to take your word on it.

It is amazing how an off the cuff jab like I made in the Curry thread has spurred so much conversation!
Not just off - the - cuff.... but apparently uninformed.

That's fine... at least you not recognizing the improvements he's made so far this season makes sense.

You missed the Bulls/Knicks game as well?
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Old 01-11-2006, 12:19 PM   #3017 (permalink)
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Not just off - the - cuff.... but apparently uninformed.

That's fine... at least you not recognizing the improvements he's made so far this season makes sense.

You missed the Bulls/Knicks game as well?
I did miss the Bull/Knick game. If I hadn't, I'm not sure it would have swayed my opinion anyway. Jamal seems to have a knack (sort of like Jalen) to come up big in games that are important to him. That's part of what I don't like about Jamal. Bring it every night!

Not so sure uninformed is fair. I had enough information last season to hand you your head on a platter in our little wager and never once accused you of being uninformed. Just because I evaluate data differently hardly means I have none. Jamal has had plenty of horrible games this season. Perhaps it's uninformed to imagine he'll improve?

As for following the Knick to become informed -- I'd rather not. I can't stand Jim Carey, yet many times friends have said "but if you see him in ....... you'll like him". Well, I've seen him in at least 5 movies and liked him in none of them. I'll go out on a limb and say I won't like him in ....... either. I'm under no obligation to watch his entire repertoire.

Did I just talk about a Knick Knack?! Oi!
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I did miss the Bull/Knick game. If I hadn't, I'm not sure it would have swayed my opinion anyway.
That's a guarantee.

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Jamal seems to have a knack (sort of like Jalen) to come up big in games that are important to him. That's part of what I don't like about Jamal. Bring it every night!
Tell that to Kirk while you are at it. And about every other non-superstar player in the league.

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Not so sure uninformed is fair. I had enough information last season to hand you your head on a platter in our little wager and never once accused you of being uninformed. Just because I evaluate data differently hardly means I have none.
Since you have not watched any Knicks games this season, what data are you using?

You don't seem to like statistics very much either.... so I'm curious what you are basing your opinions on for *this* season.

"Bad beats" happen all the time. You just have to live with them.

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Old 02-14-2006, 09:11 AM   #3019 (permalink)
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"Bad beats" happen all the time. You just have to live with them.
I think of this thread every time I see you post about how happy you were with our 47 win season last year.....
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I think of this thread every time I see you post about how happy you were with our 47 win season last year.....

LOL. I guess you want all 3 of the Knicks related threads moved or closed. (EDIT: I mean the three large knicks related threads, since there are many knicks threads on this board now)

Honestly, bumping threads to get personal shots in. Shameless. SCANDALOUS!
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Honestly, bumping threads to get personal shots in. Shameless. SCANDALOUS!
Hardly the right way, imo.
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Hey! A Knicks thread...ok, I'll play:

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It's become pretty clear that the Knicks wouldn't have traded for Crawford in August 2004 if Brown had been the coach then. Yet Brown yesterday sounded almost empathetic when asked about Crawford's play.

"You have to understand he's been asked to play an entirely different role than he's played in the past," Brown said. "I looked at his stats and he took more three-pointers by two-thirds than he did foul shots before. He had no mid-range game, he never drove it to the goal, he never had to guard the best player.

"All that has changed. It's a real learning curve."

The fact that Crawford is struggling hasn't been lost on his teammates. Even Jalen Rose, who has been with the team for only three games, has noticed, and relates it to his struggles when he was younger.
One day Brown is going to come out and say something that totally pins the blame for the struggles of his players on their start in the Bulls organization. You mark my words we'll hear it:

"I really like Curry...you just wonder what kind of player he'd be today if he had a different introduction to the league. I mean, how many players went through there and didn't meet their potential? Jamal, Eddy, the Fizer kid...it really makes you wonder..."
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LOL. I guess you want all 3 of the Knicks related threads moved or closed.
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A Player Gets It Right in a Season That's All Wrong

After practice on Saturday, Crawford acknowledged that basketball is a business and that the Knicks have a surplus of guards.

But Crawford said he wanted to remain in New York, and he is doing all the right things to cement his future with the team. His 14-foot jumper with 2.2 seconds left in Friday's game against the Detroit Pistons sealed an unlikely 105-103 victory.

The person Crawford needs to impress the most has taken notice.

"He told me he wanted to get better when I got the job, and he wanted to be coached," Coach Larry Brown said. "It's obvious to me that he's tried to do everything I've asked."

Earlier this week, Stephon Marbury issued a plea for more freedom on offense, sparking a verbal spat through the news media between him and Brown. The coach responded by pointing out that he had already given Marbury more freedom than any guard he had ever coached.

Asked if Crawford was the epitome of a player who always tried his best, Brown said: "Yeah, he's exceptional. You know, I've been blessed coaching a lot of great kids. But he's at the top of the list."
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Crawford has not complained about his role as a reserve, and Brown recently complimented him on his defensive abilities. Crawford has listened intently to everything Brown has said during practice, sometimes too literally.
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"When he puts his mind to it," Brown said of Marbury, "I think he's an exceptional defender."

Brown is looking for players who will put their minds to it all the time, and he seems to believe he has found one in Crawford.
Willing to be a reserve? Check.

Willing to defend? Check.

Big guard? Check.

Possibly available? Check.

Mature? Ch...ch...Check!(?)


Maybe theres the big 2 we've been looking for.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/sp.../19knicks.html

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Congrats to JAMAL for winning his 3rd 6th man of the year award.

1st player ever to win the award 3 times. Wow!

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