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Old 12-27-2011, 05:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Kobe Bryant?

I think its pretty safe to say that Kobe is in no way happy with the situation in LA, he feels like management is not doing its best to surround him with enough talent to win a title again.

Hes going to go through a very rough divorce and is LA really the place for him to playing with all of this about to happen?

He wanted to come here years ago.

These are some reasons why I can see it happening. Noah, Boozer, first round picks and Mirotic works financially and honestly I can see Kobe waving his no trade clause to play here. The Bulls could then pick up Joel Pryz on cheap as a back up big, start Taj at the 4 and they would be ready to compete for a title.

C- Omer
PF- Taj
SF- Deng
SG- Kobe
PG- Rose

Hamilton
Brewer
Pryz

Offense up front would be an issue but lets not kid ourselves its an issue now as well. Kobe and Rose would be absolutely UN GUARDABLE together.
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Kobe's not going anywhere.
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Re: Kobe Bryant?

He's not going anywhere that has a fiscally responsible ownership group. No way that Reinsdorf eats that contract for a player who is clearly on the decline like Kobe is. Marcus Thornton lit him up like a Christmas tree last night.
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I think its pretty safe to say that Kobe is in no way happy with the situation in LA, he feels like management is not doing its best to surround him with enough talent to win a title again.

Hes going to go through a very rough divorce and is LA really the place for him to playing with all of this about to happen?

He wanted to come here years ago.

These are some reasons why I can see it happening. Noah, Boozer, first round picks and Mirotic works financially and honestly I can see Kobe waving his no trade clause to play here. The Bulls could then pick up Joel Pryz on cheap as a back up big, start Taj at the 4 and they would be ready to compete for a title.

C- Omer
PF- Taj
SF- Deng
SG- Kobe
PG- Rose

Hamilton
Brewer
Pryz

Offense up front would be an issue but lets not kid ourselves its an issue now as well. Kobe and Rose would be absolutely UN GUARDABLE together.
Dont like the trade. Trading our front court for Kobe is not wise especially he is 33. He probably has 2-3 years left of relevant BBall. Gibson and Noah are our future frontcourt. We are title contenders now, so it is not necessary. If they want to trade Gasol for Boozer and change, then i am all for it. For the Lakers, it is a bad PR move. You do not trade a player like Kobe away unless he requests it. In this point of his career, he wants to finish as a Laker. He already has 5 championships and a bunch of other awards. It is not necessary to define his career, unless he wins it with the Lakers.
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Dont like the trade. Trading our front court for Kobe is not wise especially he is 33. He probably has 2-3 years left of relevant BBall. Gibson and Noah are our future frontcourt. We are title contenders now, so it is not necessary. If they want to trade Gasol for Boozer and change, then i am all for it. For the Lakers, it is a bad PR move. You do not trade a player like Kobe away unless he requests it. In this point of his career, he wants to finish as a Laker. He already has 5 championships and a bunch of other awards. It is not necessary to define his career, unless he wins it with the Lakers.
Kobe makes us instant title contenders, yeah the window for winning a title is 2-3 years but he gets us closer to a title than Noah and Boozer ever will. I'll take 2 years of a Kobe and Rose back court over a bad front court of Noah and Taj.

One thing you are forgetting is that Kobe WANTS TO WIN, he wants to have more titles than Jordan. Kobe will not think twice in asking for a trade if he feels like hes not going to play on a title contending team, its pretty obvious to a lot of experts that the Lakers will not compete in the west for a title.
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Re: Kobe Bryant?

You are delusional if you think that trade even makes the Bulls a better team. Rose and Kobe aren't a match made in heaven, they are two guys who overlap too much. Watch Kobe play instead of basing what you are saying on his rep. He isn't making that Laker team a contender right now and you're talking about a team that would have a pretty similar amount of talent to what the Lakers have now.
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There is absolutely no chance of this happening. Literally not in a million years. And even if it did you guys still wouldn't get past Miami. Both Kobe and Rose need to have the ball in their hands to be effective and that front court would be too soft to compensate for their overlapping abilities.

I have gotten to the point where I completely tune out Diable's take on Alex English (oops I mean Kobe) though. It's weird because he does have a good basketball mind and definitely a solid grasp on the game, but his analysis and take on Bryant's game have always been rather ridiculous. Marcus Thorton is an NBA player that can put the ball in the basket better than most, he's bound to get hot sometimes and torch fools.
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I think it's quite possible Kobe tries to find a way out of L.A.,if they don't land Howard. I think the Bulls would be significantly worse if they made this contemplated deal, however. That is not a starting NBA caliber frontcourt.

It may not be fun to abandon the notion of major, franchise-altering trades. Much of the board's activity over the years has been based around it. And sure, when you hear something like Howard becoming available, you pick up the phone. However, the Bulls have a roster built to contend, and it's quite unlikely that time spent dreaming of mega trades is time well spent, at this point. Put another way, the roster is the roster.
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SO trading away a mediocre center and an under performing PF who doesn't fit the Bulls offense for a top 10 player of all time makes the Bulls significantly worse? Not saying Kobe is the old Kobe but damn thats a dumb ass statement.

I'm sick and tired of hearing this one ball excuse, its worked fine for the Heat who have nothing surrounding 2 great players. Its debatable whether Kobe and Rose could beat the Heat but its for DAMN SURE that Noah,Deng,Boozer,Rose and Hamilton aren't going to beat the Heat.
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Re: Kobe Bryant?

It's moot because there is literally no chance that Kobe is leaving the Lakers.
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With the exceptions of Howard and Lebron, sacrificing our front court is not worth it for any player to include a player like Wade or Kobe. We are a very balanced team that is good enough to contend. No need to break it up.
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It's moot because there is literally no chance that Kobe is leaving the Lakers.
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Also, I agree, Kobe isn't going anywhere... and I don't see why the Lakers would deal him for Boozer and Noah when they have Gasol and Bynum up front already... this trade idea is all sorts of bad.
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Wow, this post is either terribly dishonest or terribly inaccurate.


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SO trading away a mediocre center
Who is that? Because if you're being honest, it's certainly not Noah.

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and an under performing PF who doesn't fit the Bulls offense
Boozer underperformed in the playoffs. This may or may not be due to injury, depending on who you believe. He performed fine in the regular season. He does not make the Bulls significantly worse. He makes them better. How, praytell, did they achieve the best record in the NBA last season? I understand Derrick is a fantastic player, but he didn't do it all alone. Taj Gibson is a significant downgrade from Boozer. He's a nice player, but let's not pretend that we're better at the 4 with Taj.

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for a top 10 player of all time makes the Bulls significantly worse? Not saying Kobe is the old Kobe but damn thats a dumb ass statement.
Kobe has a ton of miles on him and is on the way down. His standing in all-time rankings is irrelevant. What matters is the value you are getting at present. You can't just turn a blind eye to age. Or, maybe you want the Bulls to pick up George Gervin? I mean, I'm not saying George Gervin is the old George Gervin, but damn, that's a dumbass statement.

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I'm sick and tired of hearing this one ball excuse, its worked fine for the Heat who have nothing surrounding 2 great players.
Look, I like to make fun of Chris Bosh as much as the next guy, but he's not "nothing." Again, this is rank dishonesty. Also, the Heat had a very nice season, but did not win the NBA championship.

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Its debatable whether Kobe and Rose could beat the Heat but its for DAMN SURE that Noah,Deng,Boozer,Rose and Hamilton aren't going to beat the Heat.
You are entitled to your opinion. In my opinion, you are wrong if you think this move improves the Bulls' chances of beating the Heat. The Bulls can (but may not) do that as presently constructed. They get worse if they do this deal. The best you are hoping for is maybe a 1 season bump up, which I don't think you would even get considering the frontcourt downgrade. Then, you'd be forced to sit around for several years waiting for Mirotic to come over and hoping he could bolster the frontcourt.

It's a bad, bad idea.
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i would be fine with the bulls signing jr smith for the remainder of the season.
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