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Old 05-28-2015, 11:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
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That's just downright childish by the Bulls organization. Firing the guy got your point across, taking those extra shots on his way out the door was completely unnecessary.
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its sad really that grown men couldn't put aside their differences but oh well....thibs was a pretty good coach with some major flaws , his offense was for the most part boring and convoluted although effective enough, he clearly believes in an outdated model of players and their usage . on that matter i did agree with the front office although i dont believe it was their place to butt in on him on it any more than its their duty to call plays

how a head coach chooses to utilize his players is at his discretion ...for better or worse because he is the guy in the trenches with them.

but he was a defensive genius who worked his tail off. he managed to be a players coach too. very demanding coaches who are also players coaches are very rare .

i really , really feel paxson and gar need to go with him they are avg. at best which is ok but they let their feelings and ego get in the way of their mediocre judgement and that is not ok .
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:59 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I think whichever team hires him next season will be happy the Bulls made this call.
when teams are lining up to bid for his services it kind of makes you think, doesn't it?
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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You're probably right. Although... I think Jeff Van Gundy might be a small upgrade. Or I guess it's possible that I just love him as a commentator so much that I have forgotten some of his struggles as a coach.
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when teams are lining up to bid for his services it kind of makes you think, doesn't it?
now how many teams do you figure would line up for paxson or forman if they were suddenly jobless?

my guess is not many if any at all.
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I think Thibs worked some miracles with teams that had been undermanned by injury and they're definitely going to miss him
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Hopefully this opens Bulls fan's eyes to the people who are running this side show circus. If the front office wants its input in games to matter so badly, come down and coach the Flipping TEAM! Pax is a coward, the front office is a joke and people wonder why top talent avoids the Bulls like its the plague.

Oh its the high taxes, the bad weather, the crime the.... Doesn't stop the Cubs, Blackhawks and Bears from doing their jobs.
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Those weren't flagrant shots by Forman. He's just dropping some real talk.
I should have said Reinsdorf (and have edited my post to reflect my idiocy). But yeah, there's some truth to what he's saying, no doubt about that... but did it have to be said?
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Oh its the high taxes, the bad weather, the crime the.... Doesn't stop the Cubs, Blackhawks and Bears from doing their jobs.
I was with you until this. The Cubs and the Bears are better organizations than the Bulls? C'mon man...lol
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I was with you until this. The Cubs and the Bears are better organizations than the Bulls? C'mon man...lol
I don't know if this is sarcasm, but yeah the Cubs and Bears are light years better than the Bulls right now. The 90's are gone.

The Cubs are creating a mega franchise and the Bears as incompetent as they are, basically can sign anyone they want.
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I don't know if this is sarcasm, but yeah the Cubs and Bears are light years better than the Bulls right now. The 90's are gone.

The Cubs are creating a mega franchise and the Bears as incompetent as they are, basically can sign anyone they want.
NFL free agency isn't quite comparable to NBA free agency. This would be a decent topic for an OT thread... the Cubs seem pointed in the right direction, but it is highly debatable what the best run franchise in town is (or rather, who is in second right now behind the Blackhawks). The Bulls have been in the playoffs more consistently than the Bears... who just ended the Phil Emery/Marc Trestman era, hard to give the organization a strong vote of confidence after that debacle. It is a pretty mixed bag all around... my White Sox included.
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When were "those days"? It's not like a ton of coaches had that much tenure when Sloan was in Utah, either. Even before that, coaches that coached the same team for over 12 years were always an anomaly. Sloan is an outlier.
LOL...really never. I am just saying you can't really point to a single example of a long tenured coach like Sloan these days. Popovich doesn't count since he is basically their GM as well.
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I don't know if this is sarcasm, but yeah the Cubs and Bears are light years better than the Bulls right now. The 90's are gone.

The Cubs are creating a mega franchise and the Bears as incompetent as they are, basically can sign anyone they want.
NFL free agency isn't quite comparable to NBA free agency. This would be a decent topic for an OT thread... the Cubs seem pointed in the right direction, but it is highly debatable what the best run franchise in town is (or rather, who is in second right now behind the Blackhawks). The Bulls have been in the playoffs more consistently than the Bears... who just ended the Phil Emery/Marc Trestman era, hard to give the organization a strong vote of confidence after that debacle. It is a pretty mixed bag all around... my White Sox included.

I will agree about the Bears, they are very incompetent and while free agency is way different than the NBA, the Bears do seem to do whatever they want in terms of getting who they want, when they want.

No doubt the Hawks are the best run team right now in terms of PR and success, but they do make a ton of questionable roster moves.

The Bulls wish they were in the Cubs shoes right now.
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Whoever it is, it almost surely will be a downgrade.
Downgrade compared to Thibodeau staying here? Thing people need to realize is this isn't just a front office vs. Thibodeau issue here. Thibodeau clearly was having some issues with his players too. Not all of them but certainly some, and perhaps even some of our key top flight players. I feel like that issue has been played down significantly in the media, in favor of the front office vs. Thibodeau discussion. Unless we go full Vinny Del Negro on the next hire (and Hoiberg is a good coach, certainly not a Del Negro level hire), I think the next Bulls coach easily out weighs the alternative of forcing Thibodeau to stick around another season or two in a toxic environment.
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