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Old 05-28-2015, 09:22 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: Thibs Has Been Fired

Mike Wilbon had a report today as well which basically says much of the same things (can't find a link, but there are guys talking about it on realgm).

I was going to say Gasol wouldn't likely be in that group because he hasn't been here that long, and tends to stick very PC with his answers.
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This happens in every sport, in almost every organization. The Bulls history of reacting to what their coaches do or say are borderline maniacal. You don't fire one of the best assistant coaches in the game just because he disagreed with the questionable moves the front office made.
it speaks to their mentality which i find hypocritical and overbearing.

which is why they find coaches who are borderline desperate for an opportunity.

established coaches dont tolerate this stuff.
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:38 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Bulls philosophy in a nutshell.

Profit, avoid luxury tax, do as we say, then win games.
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Fuck off GarPax
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If these reports are true (Wilbon, Bernstein) about what multiple Bulls players have opened up and said, there is plenty of blame to go around on both sides.

You can bet this situation further ups the pressure on Gar at the very least, and perhaps Paxson (though probably less so given his role), to deliver on the Hoiberg hire and capitalizing on the next couple draft picks. If things start to crumble for the next 2-3 seasons, I could see someone like Gar getting ousted from the front office.
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Mike Wilbon had a report today as well which basically says much of the same things (can't find a link, but there are guys talking about it on realgm).

I was going to say Gasol wouldn't likely be in that group because he hasn't been here that long, and tends to stick very PC with his answers.
yeah, it doesn't seem like Pau has been around long enough to tire of Thib's act
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There were two problems.

First: Defense didn’t win championships. Defense doesn’t win championships. If that were ever true, it’s not now. Defense is more like a prerequisite for any team that wants to really contend. Go back through the best teams over the past few years — the Warriors, Cavs, Heat, Spurs, Lakers, Celtics. Those teams were good on defense, and most were great. But anytime you get deep enough into the playoffs, everyone is at that level. What sets the best teams apart is offense. That’s the riddle Thibs could never solve. It’s why the Bulls lost to Miami in 2011, and it’s why they lost to Cleveland this year.

The other problem was more obvious: Thibs is a crazy person. He plays guys way too many minutes and grinds them into dust. This is a good running joke, but it’s probably not as funny to his players. The season is eight months long, and it’s no coincidence the same overachieving Bulls teams always came staggering into the playoffs, looking like they’d just survived a six-month UFC fight.

Even if you don’t blame him for what’s happened to Rose (I don’t), we watched Luol Deng turn into a fossil before his 30th birthday, and the same thing happened to Joakim Noah this year. Jimmy Butler broke out as a superstar this season and gave Chicago hope for the future, but there was Thibs, playing him the most minutes per game in the NBA. Butler went down with an injury in March. At least he got a rest before the playoffs.

The cycle was hard to watch. Now imagine watching it as a front-office executive who’s drafted these guys, seen them turn into stars, and then had to sit there and watch them driven into the ground. That’s why the petty press release from Reinsdorf was also perfectly fair. “Teams that consistently perform at the highest levels are able to come together and be unified across the organization — staff, players, coaches, management and ownership. When everyone is on the same page, trust develops and teams can grow and succeed together.” Thibs wasn’t on the same page, and for as demanding/demeaning as the Bulls have been to coaches over the years, asking him to think about the big picture is pretty reasonable.
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In any business, insecurity and cheap tendencies at the top trickle down to everyone. It spawns a working environment in which nobody feels appreciated and everyone looks expendable. That’s what made it so amazing to see Reinsdorf discuss culture in the press release yesterday. He may have a point in this case, but now that he mentions it, this has all played out exactly like the battles of the ’90s, just with completely different characters … except one. And while we’re here, his mighty organization still hasn’t won a title since Jordan left.
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