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Old 05-28-2015, 09:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Looks like they went ahead and did it without compensation.
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Re: Thibs Has Been Fired

I think whichever team hires him next season will be happy the Bulls made this call.
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Re: Thibs Has Been Fired

Kind of relieved it's over and done with this soon.

Looks like Mr. Insider Adrian Wojnarowski was wrong when he said “I think this thing stretches out. I think it’s going to be complicated.”

LOL...sorry, I really despise Woj's biased agendas.
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I think whichever team hires him next season will be happy the Bulls made this call.
Thibodeau is a good coach. He can be a GREAT coach for a few teams out there. Orlando would be perfect for him. His time here was clearly done, though. NBA coaches just simply have a shelf life. The days of a Jerry Sloan coaching 20 years at the same spot are over. The only exception are the coaches who play a dual-GM role like Popovich, and even those might only last so long (Doc Rivers for example is already getting alot of pressure).
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The days of a Jerry Sloan coaching 20 years at the same spot are over.
When were "those days"? It's not like a ton of coaches had that much tenure when Sloan was in Utah, either. Even before that, coaches that coached the same team for over 12 years were always an anomaly. Sloan is an outlier.
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Tom is a great coach. Elite? Only time will tell, but a great coach nonetheless. He however comes with many flaws. Who doesn't? No one. The question is can he overcome his flaws and become an even better coach? Apparently the Bulls organization doesn't believe so at the moment or at least not with this team.

I thank Tom for his work here. He's inspired us and taken us farther than we've ever gone in the post-Jordan era. It is time to go in a new direction though. Hopefully management starts making some better decisions going forward. The spotlight needs to increasingly be shined on GarPax and the heat needs to be turned up on them as well.

I hate that the end of the Thibodeau era comes on this note. I hope Tom will go on to succeed at what ever ventures he pursues in the future. Until then, it's Bulls 4 life!
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Who would you guys like to see become the next coach of the Bulls?
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Re: Thibs Has Been Fired

As predictable as it was, I still hate it.
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As predictable as it was, I still hate it.
I don't love it, but it is time to move on.
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Who would you guys like to see become the next coach of the Bulls?
Whoever it is, it almost surely will be a downgrade.
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Re: Thibs Has Been Fired

Well, we'll see how this goes. If you get the next great coach, all will be forgotten... but firing a guy with Thibodeau's resume sets you up for disappointment. This whole thing is softened by the fact that we've been anticipating it for so long, but I'm still a bit bewildered by the failure of Paxson/Forman/Thibodeau to make this work a little longer.

Does this mean our window to compete for a championship has closed for the time being? Is it closed even if Thibs sticks around? Was it ever really open?

When are we going to start hearing some player reactions (maybe I've just missed them)? The players have been pretty quiet throughout this season, despite the issue hanging over their heads.
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Whoever it is, it almost surely will be a downgrade.
You're probably right. Although... I think Jeff Van Gundy might be a small upgrade. Or I guess it's possible that I just love him as a commentator so much that I have forgotten some of his struggles as a coach.
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Here's the press release from the Bulls: http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/tom-th...lls-head-coach


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Chicago Bulls General Manager Gar Forman announced today that Tom Thibodeau will not be retained as the team’s head coach.

Chicago Bulls Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf said, “The Chicago Bulls have a history of achieving great success on and off the court. These accomplishments have been possible because of an organizational culture where input from all parts of the organization has been welcomed and valued, there has been a willingness to participate in a free flow of information, and there have been clear and consistent goals. While the head of each department of the organization must be free to make final decisions regarding his department, there must be free and open interdepartmental discussion and consideration of everyone's ideas and opinions. These internal discussions must not be considered an invasion of turf, and must remain private. Teams that consistently perform at the highest levels are able to come together and be unified across the organization-staff, players, coaches, management and ownership. When everyone is on the same page, trust develops and teams can grow and succeed together. Unfortunately, there has been a departure from this culture. To ensure that the Chicago Bulls can continue to grow and succeed, we have decided that a change in the head coaching position is required. Days like today are difficult, but necessary for us to achieve our goals and fulfill our commitments to our fans. I appreciate the contributions that Tom Thibodeau made to the Bulls organization. I have always respected his love of the game and wish him well in the future.”

Following 21 years in the NBA as an assistant coach (he was an advance scout in 1991-92), Chicago named Thibodeau the team’s head coach on June 23, 2010. During his five seasons at the helm of the Bulls, Thibodeau’s teams compiled an overall record of 255-139 (.647). The Bulls advanced to the playoffs five times during Thibodeau’s tenure, where he posted a postseason record of 23-28 (.451).

"When Tom was hired in 2010, he was right for our team and system at that time, and over the last five years we have had some success with Tom as our head coach,” said Chicago Bulls General Manager Gar Forman. “But as we looked ahead and evaluated how we as a team and an organization could continue to grow and improve, we believed a change in approach was needed."
Some shots fired by Reinsdorf there... probably unnecessary after the guy has been let go. What I took from the release was that it was not just Thibs' resistance to the front office's input (I'm presuming about minute limits) but his willingness to go public/leak information about the disagreement that rubbed the front office the wrong way.
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You're probably right. Although... I think Jeff Van Gundy might be a small upgrade. Or I guess it's possible that I just love him as a commentator so much that I have forgotten some of his struggles as a coach.
After airing out Bulls management on national TV (I assume at his friend Tom's behest), I would say there is a zero percent chance of Jeff Van Gundy being offered or accepting that job.
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Those weren't flagrant shots by Forman. He's just dropping some real talk.
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