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Old 05-28-2015, 01:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fred Hoiberg (Officially your new Bulls head coach)

Rather than take away from the discussion about Thibodeau I figured I'd start a thread to discuss the guy that seems to be the most likely replacement. I'll update the thread title as news develops.

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Wojnarowski: Those Close To Fred Hoiberg Believe He’ll Be Coaching The Bulls Next Season
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The people around Fred Hoiberg believe very much he’ll be in Chicago before next season,
I know Fred Hoiberg the former Bull (and a little about his resume)... can someone fill me in on Fred Hoiberg the coach?
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Re: Fred Hoiberg

I've been reading up on Hoiberg the coach for the past few months, ever since he was mentioned as a viable successor for the Bulls position.

The more I see, the more I like.

His players clearly respect the hell out of him. He communicates extremely well, and is an excellent teacher.

I like that he has shown alot of offensive creativity. He scouts NBA schemes heavily and draws inspiration from them for his own schemes. Aside from getting upset in the NCAA tournament this year, his Iowa State teams have done extremely well both in the regular season and in the tournament. Generally meeting or exceeding expectations.

Remember too that he's worked in an NBA front office so he 100% understands where his GM is coming from. He was a good NBA role player who played with his head.

Here is a nice little snippet of him in a post-game locker room speech:
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Re: Fred Hoiberg

Also I am sure Hoiberg has flaws as all coaches do. Only time will tell what his flaws are. Maybe he proves incapable of dealing with NBA player egos, as many NCAA coaches struggle with. Maybe he can't coach a good defense. Who knows...what's clear thus far is, the people of Ames, Iowa worship the ground this guy walks on and are crying at the possibility of him leaving Iowa State. I haven't seen anyone who really has anything negative to say about Fred. That's a pretty good start I suppose.
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Re: Fred Hoiberg

there are some things about Hoiberg i like , but i see immediate problems ahead for one hoiberg is a lot more open minded about the players he coaches and its not a situation i see working out with Garpax.
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there are some things about Hoiberg i like , but i see immediate problems ahead for one hoiberg is a lot more open minded about the players he coaches and its not a situation i see working out with Garpax.
I think Hoiberg's recruitment style, and the way he worked to consistently implement new guys used to being the "man" on small college teams, regularly a little more removed from high school than typical recruits may have him working from a perspective a little closer to an NBA coach than many other college coaches. They weren't as talented as many blue chip freshmen, but in their own way they were 'free agents' and probably brought a more independent mindset to the game - which would make sense coming from guys that effectively had to fight for a second chance at big college ball.
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The biggest selling point that the bulls see in Hoiberg is that they truly feel that he's someone the front office can completely control.

Pax wants to use Hoiberg like a surrogate and I really hope it blows up in his face. I'm not wishing Fred to fail, I just hope he's the complete opposite personality of what they think they are getting.
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Does this move smell a tad Tim Floyd-ish to anyone else?
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Does this move smell a tad Tim Floyd-ish to anyone else?
Not even remotely.

Floyd was coming in to coach a garbage roster. Hoiberg is coming in to coach a good one. There's no reason to believe this situation should be like that one. The Iowa State thing is there, but I don't think that's meaningful.
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Bulls Bulls confident Fred Hoiberg will accept coaching offer, sources say

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CHICAGO -- The Bulls are quietly confident that Iowa State coach Fred Hoiberg will accept an offer to become their next head coach, according to multiple league sources.

News of mutual interest between Hoiberg, who played for the Bulls for four of his 10 NBA seasons and is a close friend of general manager Gar Forman, and Chicago isn't a surprise. He has close relationships with several people in the Bulls' front office and is well regarded for his success in Ames.

The Bulls fired Tom Thibodeau on Thursday after five years as their coach. Thibodeau had two years and almost $9 million left on his contract.

The timetable on exactly when Hoiberg, 42, might formally sign a contract is still being hammered out. While the feeling within the organization continues to be that a contract and introductory news conference could come as early as next week, the Bulls, according to sources, are giving extra consideration to the time frame because Hoiberg underwent open-heart surgery to replace his aortic valve last month.

Bleacher Report and the Chicago Tribune also reported that a deal between Hoiberg and the Bulls is expected. The Orlando Sentinel reported Friday that Hoiberg also interviewed with the Magic for their head-coaching vacancy, but Orlando has named Scott Skiles its coach.

Earlier this week, the Ames Tribune, citing sources with knowledge of the situation, reported that Hoiberg has told at least one recruit that his future at Iowa State is uncertain.
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Re: Bulls confident Fred Hoiberg will accept coaching offer, sources say

Iowa State or Chicago Bulls...Ya that is a tough decision
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Re: Fred Hoiberg

its always interesting on how people decide to throw out the baby with the bathwater on hires of this sort .

to garpax, thibs is bad so you need to go in the opposite direction on basically everything.

thibs is a hard pressing , defensive minded obsessive type

hoiberg is the opposite he's offensive minded, well rounded, people pleasing from basically everyone he is just a good guy who is a joy to be around who coaches a very easy on the eyes style of play.

there is the question of whether hoiberg will be taken seriously in the locker room , the bulls return a very accomplished team, their starting line up features 4 players who were all stars recently and have been indoctrinated in thibs defense 1st culture

I think hoiberg's style can work in the nba, its very possible it cant but I am choosing to be optimistic about it ....but not with this roster its predicated on running, spacing and 3 point shooting at iowa state his teams were finesse teams and that doesn't describe the bulls at all..

the bulls as currently constructed are filled with guys who can shoot , but not guys you would call shooters, maybe they should target guys like myles turner and frank kaminsky in the draft, trade up if need be .

maybe trade taj Gibson for channing frye+ assets like a pick or 2.
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Re: Fred Hoiberg (5/30, Sources Say Bulls Confident Hoiberg Will Accept Offer)

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The biggest selling point that the bulls see in Hoiberg is that they truly feel that he's someone the front office can completely control.

Pax wants to use Hoiberg like a surrogate and I really hope it blows up in his face. I'm not wishing Fred to fail, I just hope he's the complete opposite personality of what they think they are getting.
Complete hogwash...baseless claim. Is it really that hard to believe a coach and front office can have a collaborative relationship without one "controlling" the other? The front office wants a coach that will communicate with them, and likewise actually listen to what they have to say as well. Having worked for 10+ years in heavy team collaboration settings, I assure you there is nothing worse than having someone passive aggressive on your team who doesn't communicate or listen to feedback constructively. Critical job skill in many professions. The Bulls seem convinced Hoiberg will do this, and it's easy to see why just by researching a bit on Hoiberg's coaching style.

Hoiberg had his pick of several NBA head coaching jobs, including the Warriors job last year allegedly. He held out for the job he wanted which was the Bulls. He is not coming to be "controlled" by anyone, when he is worshiped and experiencing high success in his current job, and had other appealing alternatives.
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there is the question of whether hoiberg will be taken seriously in the locker room
If there is 1 thing that could be Hoiberg's downfall, I'd put my money on this. You are hard pressed to find any negative critiques on Hoiberg currently because his coaching style clearly has worked great since taking over the Iowa State program. But egos are much larger in the NBA and coaching veterans is alot different than 18-21 year old kids. And as I said, every coach has flaws...time will tell what Hoiberg's flaws are. But, I have no reason to believe ego management and respect will be a problem, just saying it's the most likely issue to come up should Hoiberg fail. As long as we keep coachable players around, I wouldn't predict it to be a problem.
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Complete hogwash...baseless claim. Is it really that hard to believe a coach and front office can have a collaborative relationship without one "controlling" the other? The front office wants a coach that will communicate with them, and likewise actually listen to what they have to say as well. Having worked for 10+ years in heavy team collaboration settings, I assure you there is nothing worse than having someone passive aggressive on your team who doesn't communicate or listen to feedback constructively. Critical job skill in many professions.

Hoiberg had his pick of several NBA head coaching jobs, including the Warriors job last year allegedly. He held out for the job he wanted which was the Bulls. He is not coming to be "controlled" by anyone, when he is worshiped and experiencing high success in his current job.
I don't doubt hoiberg isn't coming in to be controlled.

but that doesn't mean forman and paxson aren't hiring them because of it , one really has nothing to do with the other.

and thibs and vdn did listen to gar and paxson , thibs enforced the minutes restrictions that he clearly didn't agree with and is pretty intrusive on thibs doing his job.

the whole minutes restriction episode is undermining thibs , both in how thibs perceived it and reality and I don't believe the genesis of undermining behavior starts with paxson and forman but with reinsdorf ...it started with Krause but Krause by all accounts was cool with it .

that doesn't appear to be the case with garpax, its causing friction and backbiting and all sorts of petty actions over the past 5 years to the point everyone involved looks smaller from the experience.
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