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Old 01-03-2016, 06:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jimmy. Bulls/Raps.

40 points in a half. A win that should have been a loss. A postgame hug-a-thon.

Discuss. Has the team turned a corner?
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Re: Jimmy. Bulls/Raps.

These are the types of games that bring me out of my cynical preseason form, only to disappoint me when the playoffs come around. That being said, how can you not love it?

I'd like to think that my being on the same flight as Jimmy this past June somehow helped him to have this game.
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These are the types of games that bring me out of my cynical preseason form, only to disappoint me when the playoffs come around. That being said, how can you not love it?

I'd like to think that my being on the same flight as Jimmy this past June somehow helped him to have this game.
Perfect! Now we just need King Joseus to ride on more flights with Jimmy and for more of the opposing players to bust his lip at the beginning of games! The Bulls will be unstoppable.
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Re: Jimmy. Bulls/Raps.

Loved seeing it, and really impressed how the Bulls responded to adversity from just a week or two ago. We've seen this stuff play out enough in sports where a team going through adversity either continues the slippery slope into the toilet, or they show resilience by coming together. It seems like more of the latter is happening. Although this squad of players is so weird sometimes, whenever they start building momentum they seem to lose it just as quickly by losing to the Sixers or something like that.

Nonetheless -- even the Bulls' offense has been finally improving as they've been trending up a few spots. They definitely should be better than what the numbers show, so I'm not too surprised as the sample size expands we should regress to the mean. Also crazy stat -- the Bulls are 2nd in the entire NBA in winning % versus Top 10 teams (9 wins to 2 losses...only the Warriors are better). In fact if I'm not mistaken, 5 of our 12 losses came to the Hornets and Pistons who we can't seem to match up with despite being really flawed/shallow teams; Bulls killers Nicolas Batum & Andre Drummond just massacre us.
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Re: Jimmy. Bulls/Raps.

One of the best halves of basketball I've ever seen. Not only pouring in the points but playing elite D as well. Hats off to Jimmy.

Was that really pace n' space Hoiball though or just the "hero ball" that so many despise having a hot shooting half?

Bulls still have the 5th worst TS% in the NBA and have less than a 1 point gap between OFF EFF and DEF EFF.

If Jimmy can keep playing that way though the Bulls will be in good shape.

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One of the best halves of basketball I've ever seen. Not only pouring in the points but playing elite D as well. Hats off to Jimmy.

Was that really pace n' space Hoiball though or just the "hero ball" that so many despise having a hot shooting half?

Bulls still have the 5th worst TS% in the NBA and have less than a 1 point gap between OFF EFF and DEF EFF.

If Jimmy can keep playing that way though the Bulls will be in good shape.

I knew you could find the downer in one of the better regular season games played in the post-MJ era. Way to go!
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I knew you could find the downer in one of the better regular season games played in the post-MJ era. Way to go!
It was a great regular season win. Lots of fun to watch.

Let's hope its the moment we look back to when we saw Butler emerge as the 1A superstar you pretty much need to win a championship.

Several people were looking to ship the poor guy out of town a week or two ago and the smear machine was seemingly getting revved up.

Maybe Hoiberg started coaching him harder.

Or maybe someone should just give him hard elbow to the mouth before every game.
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Was that really pace n' space Hoiball though or just the "hero ball" that so many despise having a hot shooting half?
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I knew you could find the downer in one of the better regular season games played in the post-MJ era. Way to go!
I really enjoyed the Butler performance but K4E isn't totally wrong here... Jimmy Butler has been a bit of a ball stopper in the offense, and I hope his 40 point-in-a-half outburst doesn't compel him to clear out and isolate more offensively (unless he's going to shoot at a 75% TS% like he did on Sunday, in which case, have at it... the "G" stands for "gets"!).

That being said, what a fun game. What was great about Jimmy Butler's performance was the variety of ways he got his points... from outside, in the paint, from the line, etc... pretty fucking awesome (for lack of a better phrase).
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Re: Jimmy. Bulls/Raps.

You are correct. Butler's off ball movement at times is excellent and that fits what Hoiberg is trying to do completely. He gets 1-2 easy alley oop dunks every game courtsey of Pau Gasol due to this fact. However when he gets the ball out on the perimeter, his tendency has been to hold the ball and take his time (i.e., ballstopping). Hoiberg's MO at Iowa State was the opposite of this, which is never hold the ball for more than a second, always make quick decisions. The ball should always be moving. You get the ball, you decide to either shoot, pass, or drive immediately, no hesitation. This keeps defenses off balance. This isn't to call out Butler specifically though, it's been a problem with most Bulls players to adapt to this play style. They just aren't accustomed to it. From what I've observed, Gasol does the best job at quick decisions with the ball. McDermott does a good job with it too and is solid off ball, always moving. Noah, Rose, Butler while all good passers have a habit of holding the ball too long. Which is a problem given how much they touch the ball.
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