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Old 01-25-2013, 08:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Shabazz Muhammad - SG/SF - UCLA

Shabazz Muhammad is a 6'5" 220 pound freshman wing for UCLA. He turned 19 in November. He has been measured with a 6'11.25" wingspan and a 8'8" standing reach. Muhammad was the top ranked player in his high school class and appears to be on his way to be the #1 pick in the draft.

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Despite all of the offcourt drama surrounding him, Muhammad is averaging 18 PPG playing for Ben Howland. (For reference, Howland's offense held Kevin Love to 17.5 PPG, Russel Westbrook to 12.7 PPG, and Jrue Holiday to 8.5 PPG) He has a versatile offensive game and is shooting over 47% from both the field and three point range.
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Im watching the replay of the game now. He's really good, but I really don't like to see those antics after his team won the game. Thats not good for a locker room. He was doing everything for his team in the first half so I can see how he would want the ball. No excuse for not celebrating with the team.
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I'd like to see more out of him at times, but the kid is very talented. Should definitely be a Top 3 pick, has good size, and is well rounded offensively. If he continues to get better he definitely does have a little James Harden in him.
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Not a fan of Shabazz he is a good rebounder and a good spot up shooter but he has poor handles, rarely looks to pass, and has had a harder time scoring in the paint then I thought he would. Based on what he has done this season I don't think he is a top 5 pick but I can see a NBA team talk themselves into taking him that high.
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Re: Shabazz Muhammad - SG/SF - UCLA

I don't care for him either. He doesn't shoot well enough from mid-range to justify his ability to create his own shot. In the NBA he's a liability at this point in his career.
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Not a fan of Shabazz he is a good rebounder and a good spot up shooter but he has poor handles, rarely looks to pass, and has had a harder time scoring in the paint then I thought he would. Based on what he has done this season I don't think he is a top 5 pick but I can see a NBA team talk themselves into taking him that high.
I don't think it will take a lot of work for one of the top 3 teams to talk themselves into Muhammad. And that's more a commentary on the lack of premier talent in this pool. He could be more than an impact roleplayer, so one of them will roll the dice. If this were 2014, for example, the talk would be whether or not someone in the 5-10 range should take a shot on him (based on this year's performance).

He reminds me a little of a crack whore's Paul Pierce, and if I had someone like Pierce to sit on him I'd feel better about drafting him. This year I do feel a little sorry for the teams "winning" Noel and Muhammad.
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This year I do feel a little sorry for the teams "winning" Noel and Muhammad.
This is very true. The last time this happened (with Kenyon and Stromile) as the top 2 picks, Mike Miller wound up rookie of the year and Jamal Crawford (a great 3rd guard) wound up the best player in the entire lottery.
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Re: Shabazz Muhammad - SG/SF - UCLA

I think McLemore is legit. He looks like an all-star in the Ray Allen mode to my eyes. Has some of the same weaknesses too. So #1 is something to be happy with. Two through five? Ugh. Just ugh. I liked Marcus Smart when I thought he might slip into the middle of the first round and Boston still looked like a borderline playoff team. But at four or five? Blech.
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I think McLemore is legit. He looks like an all-star in the Ray Allen mode to my eyes. Has some of the same weaknesses too. So #1 is something to be happy with. Two through five? Ugh. Just ugh. I liked Marcus Smart when I thought he might slip into the middle of the first round and Boston still looked like a borderline playoff team. But at four or five? Blech.
I agree, McLemore passes the eye test. You can just tell that he has got an incredible feel and natural talent for the game, he looks so smooth on the court. Even in the NBA you rarely see that.

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I think McLemore is legit. He looks like an all-star in the Ray Allen mode to my eyes. Has some of the same weaknesses too. So #1 is something to be happy with. Two through five? Ugh. Just ugh. I liked Marcus Smart when I thought he might slip into the middle of the first round and Boston still looked like a borderline playoff team. But at four or five? Blech.
I'd be happy to land McLemore and I would be happy to land Noel too.

That doesn't mean the rest of the guys are garbage, but it's just not clear cut.
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I'm not saying they're garbage. What I'm saying is that when you win the lottery (as in land a top 3 pick) your hope is that you're getting an all star. Not landing the next DeMar DeRozan or Larry Sanders.
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I'm not saying they're garbage. What I'm saying is that when you win the lottery (as in land a top 3 pick) your hope is that you're getting an all star. Not landing the next DeMar DeRozan or Larry Sanders.
No doubt, but that's the nature of the beast. Sometimes drafts just aren't built that way. Even with that being said, I don't think it's a forgone conclusion that none of these guys can be big time NBA players. There won't be a LeBron, or even a Kyrie Irving, but if Noel develops into a Serge Ibaka caliber player (because if Larry Sanders didn't foul out in 27 minutes, his per 36 are very impressive) you still got a huge upgrade through the draft. If Carter-Williams can have a Ricky Rubio like impact right out of the gates, that's a big deal. There should also be a handful of international players who could easily add some quality to this draft (Dario Saric!), though to your point, none of them are top 5 guys here.

I think when we look back at this draft it will be a deep one with a handful of quality players. It's going to depend on how many guys are able to continue to improve, and Shabazz is one of them.
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Re: Shabazz Muhammad - SG/SF - UCLA

The draft in 2000 was an outlier, usually you have at least one or two players that will end up in the All-Star game at some point. If you are picking in the Top 3-5, your expectation better be to get more than a solid role player. Otherwise you are stuck with developing (very) young players that need a couple of years to reach their ceiling of a decent role player. In the mean time, they aren't helping you win games despite the investment of time, minutes and money.
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