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Old 11-01-2010, 09:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Josh Smith is available, maybe Kevin Love also?

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...s-feeling-love

Outside of Blake Griffin (and occasionally Eric Gordon) this team is crap. Baron either doesn't care or just got too old to make a difference. And Kaman looks like he's regressing behind another good PF... again.

So with Josh Smith possibly being available, I think the clips could only get better by offering Baron and a 1st rounder.

Apparently there's a rumor that Kevin Love might be available as well (after getting benched), maybe something like Kaman + Minnesota's 1st for Love & filler could work out?

Either way, the clips need some major changes if they've got any hope of making the playoffs.

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Re: Josh Smith is available, maybe Kevin Love also?

I've already lost hope for the playoffs. Baron is playing LIKE A GRADE A BUM. Kaman is a screw up. only positives are Bledsoe stepping in, and of course Blake.
I'm not so ehhh for the Josh Smith trade. but I'll take Love for Kaman + Aminu.
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I've already lost hope for the playoffs. Baron is playing LIKE A GRADE A BUM. Kaman is a screw up. only positives are Bledsoe stepping in, and of course Blake.
I'm not so ehhh for the Josh Smith trade. but I'll take Love for Kaman + Aminu.
Yep, i don't think they'll make the playoffs either, but at least we could be competitive if we could swap out one of our two "best" players who are actually doing the worst (Baron & Kaman)
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Maybe a contender will take a flier on Baron come deadline time, but you rag on your players and why they're no good for you, what makes you think that makes them tradeable?
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Where did you read Josh Smith is available?
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Re: Josh Smith is available, maybe Kevin Love also?

Not available but people are speculating that he'll be the odd man out after spending money on JJ and Al Horford. I agree with it but it's not like they're listening to offers. If he actually read the article it said the same thing, that come trade deadline they might see 3 steps down the road and realize they should get rid of him for something.
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Where did you read Josh Smith is available?
Updated the original post with the link, it seems like a reasonable scenario considering the contracts they're committed to & the fact that they listened to offers in the summer.

He may not get moved at all, but I'm just trying to keep things interesting for clippers fans.
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Maybe a contender will take a flier on Baron come deadline time, but you rag on your players and why they're no good for you, what makes you think that makes them tradeable?
Baron is only good when he's motivated, he really needs a change of scenery. It won't get better here on the clippers, but somewhere else with a better coach he can improve his game.

Kaman is much better when he's the only real post player and doesn't feel like he can defer to anyone else. When Brand left, he upped his game, but now with Griffin, he's back to being a passive #2. In Minnesota (for Love), he'd be back in that situation, where Beasley needs help with defense & rebounds.
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We need a scorer. I don't think Josh Smith is the answer.
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We need a scorer. I don't think Josh Smith is the answer.
Baron & Kaman both shooting in the low 30% range while attempting 27+ per game is what's killing us. Smith is much more careful and often ends up with a dunk or some other high FG% shot.

Also, less shots for Smith means more shots for Griffin & Gordon, who are both capable of being high FG% shooters that could easily move up into the 20+ ppg range.
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The thing is plays aren't run for Josh Smith, he's an updated Shawn Marion, so who's going to get him those shots if Baron is gone?
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The thing is plays aren't run for Josh Smith, he's an updated Shawn Marion, so who's going to get him those shots if Baron is gone?
You're missing the point, Baron isn't the star of this team. Our offense needs to go thru 2 guys, Gordon & Griffin. Simply taking Baron out of the game and putting Gordon, Bledsoe, Foye or anyone in the playmaking position will be a net gain. He's out already with a "sore knee", last year it was a "sore ass". He doesn't want to be here and will continue to tank it until he's traded, this won't be the first time it's happened.

Here's our team assists over the 1st four games:

Game 1: 19 assists Baron: 8 pts (3/11), 3 ast
Game 2: 17 assists Baron: 16 pts (5/13), 8 ast
Game 3: 17 assists Baron: 7 pts (3/10), 6 ast
Game 4: 26 assists NO BARON, Gordon: 23 pts (10/17), 11 ast

In game 4, Gordon was the primary ballhandler and the team moved the ball much better overall. It's not that he's a superskilled PG, he can pass well enough, so can Kaman & Griffin. The idea is that by letting the team pass around the ball instead of Baron dishing it at the last second during one of his failed drives, the Clips can be more efficient offensively and won't need a PG to handle the ball for 22 seconds per possession.

Is Smith a perfect fit? Nope (Deng & Iguodala seem like better fits), but he's a quality defender and is athletic enough to run and move the ball with Gordon & Griffin.

At this point, I think it's worth a shot, Baron wants to go & the clippers need to try something before the season is completely lost in November!
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Re: Josh Smith is available, maybe Kevin Love also?

Eric Bledsoe!!!!!!What did I say a bigger Brandon Jennings...his speed is incredible was blowing by Russell with ease
Just give Baron away for an Expiring and let Bledsoe/Gordon run show with Foye a capable back up
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Re: Josh Smith is available, maybe Kevin Love also?

Im not high on Kaman. I think he's a little too slow and clumsy around the rim, and Baron Davis? Well that guy needs to come off the bench for sure. I wouldn't be opposed to trading Kaman for anyone at this point. Let DeAndre Jordan and Eric Bledsoe start. I wish we still had Camby.
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Re: Josh Smith is available, maybe Kevin Love also?

So word is that teams are making offers to Minnesota for Kevin Love. I think he'd be a good fit with the rest of the clippers and certainly cannot do worse than Kaman. And who knows, maybe Kaman will play better in his native habitat.

How about something like:

Kaman + Minnesota's 1st for Love + Brewer

We'd immediately move Love back to his natural position at center, and Brewer could try his hand at being a respectable SF. At the very least, he'd provide some defense on the wing.
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